Requirements of the Big Bang - Dr. William Lane Craig
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@nlytend1 Well we are here from a reason...
"Nothing" created "Nothing"
"God" created the universe and this planet and us and everything around us.....
God can't create God as God has always been...
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@Xaivier2000 Well, whatever works for ya.
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@nlytend1 Well not really... God has always been .."I am the Alpha and the Omega"
The beginning and the end....yes it’s hard to understand how God has always been....
Though i guess all will be revealed after we are dead.....either we cease to exist or we meet God....
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@nlytend1 Well honestly that's my belief. When I think of intelligent design I tend to think of Christ because I am a Christian, but I understand that they're interpretation of intelligent design could be totally different. As for everything else that's you're opinion and logic. There's more to life and the universe than we don't know.
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@Sirafrican How does a person arrive at Christianity from assuming there is an intelligent designer? Furthermore, why not assume the universe had designers, thus favoring polytheism? After all, if we're gonna stick w/ the idea that everything requires a creator as Xaivier2000 maintains, then it only follows that since not everything created was created by one person, similarly not everything in nature was created by one "intelligent designer."
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@Xaivier2000 I guess that would include a deity as well? It too would have to be created.
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Occam's Razor states that the theory with less assumptions is preferable, unless it has far less explanatory power.
If you assume God exists, all is explained and therefore it has a maximum of explanatory power and a minimal amount of assumptions (one).
If you assume we're here due to the Big Bang, without a creator, you must assume multiple unlikely coincidences happen, and that doesn't explain EVERYTHING, merely the universe's origin, and it doesn't even explain that fully.
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@TheJohnPetras The scientific way is going to open up more questions regardless. You could say it's arose from a more complex set of circumstances, but that will have just as many questions with it as saying that God created it. The whole scientific process is based on making discoveries which uncover new questions.
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@gmanbyah328 Simpler as in *has less connotations that then need to be explained.* Simpler in a logical sense, not simpler as in *easier for a weak brain to process.* For example it might seem simpler for to believe that as a result of my desk wobbling there is an evil mastermind making it happen, but in a scientific way this open up far more questions; who is the mastermind? Why is he doing it? etc
The whole point of Occam's razor is not to give the evidence any more merit than it contains.
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No such thing as luck when it comes the universe.
Our universe is "Made" just like everything we humans do is made by us.
It's not logical to say that everything has to be made "everything" except for human beings, this planet and the universe. Illogical
Everything has been "Made" and made from something intelligent and that includes this planet and the universe.
The universe is not just a stroke of luck like in a game of cards played at the casino, that’s madness!.
Xaivier2000 9 months ago 11
@Xaivier2000 That is so true. I took physics and astronomy and I'll tell you that it is impossible for the universe to happen by luck. My teacher is an astrophysicist and he's a strong believer in christ.
Sirafrican 9 months ago 9