Everything is made in china Pt 2 - Rotaries

some examples of the ebay overpricing of cheap china knock offs

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Education

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• tattoo
• machines
• bay
• rotaries
• china

[theartofthecovenant]

I knew it wouldn't be long before they ripped off Johansen. Damnit.

[TATTOOTRAINING]

@theartofthecovenant whos that? does he make machines with tool parts or the gears ?

same co. has a shitload of john clark rip off ( majority of shit resold as lous machines) , they even did my side by side reverse spring . 

[theartofthecovenant]

@TATTOOTRAINING Christian Johanssen? Inkmachines. He's their designer. Did the Dragonfly in only about 5 years spent on the drawing table. Nothin major there, just 5 years of hard work and dedication.

[TATTOOTRAINING]

@theartofthecovenant and the Chinese copy it and pump it out in 5 days

[KevinRayKnight]

Did'nt see a review on the dragon fly knock off I ordered one and will let know know personally in a week or so. Sucks about the motor but then again I can get the good one from ink-machines for about $100. One note about coils, I've had no luch with coils that were plated (shiny) The best coils I have used are from international and they are Iron coils.

[TATTOOTRAINING]

@KevinRayKnight i have seen swis rotary motors on line for 60.00 so when the motor starts to get shaky look for one . after i mentioned how they use shity alloy metal, i found china machine makers PAINTING the fucking coil cores and armature bars black . sad pulled some coils from a china machine today that weighed half as much as mine .

[KevinRayKnight]

@theartofthecovenant Im not used to a rotary but with this one i didnt have to get used to it. just tighten the dampen screw all the way down and then 1-1/2 turns back is the perfect hit for me. It doesnt stop or bog down and the weight! oh how nice is it to just be able to do smooth free moving whips and to flip it around in your hand when you need to. I am pleased with this machine.

[theartofthecovenant]

@KevinRayKnight I was thinking sorta the same thing when I got mine. But then I though about how it would prolly sound and vibrate if some of those parts were actually aluminum. lol. And then I kinda just zipped it. lol. I mean tho, dude, I'm in no way saying that cheap cant be good. I was just speaking on the topic in light of conversation. But how do you feel about it now that you've used it? Still good?

[ninaandray1]

i have 2 of these ,,,,,greattttttt lol ,y spend $650.00 ,to c if your even going to like a gragonfly,buy one of these ,the motors aren't maxon ,but they do the job,buy a extra motor for when the china motor fries lol

[ninaandray1]

dragonfly knockoff is as good as the real thing,even the parts work of of the dragonfly,,,,very dajustable , very strong ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,­,,,,,,,i think people take branding to far,buy one of these ,throw a maxon motor in it ,save some money folks

[KevinRayKnight]

@theartofthecovenant Thats kind of impressive but scary that inkmachines would use plastic when they could have machined the rest of it from aluminium. The bar tension wheel and arm are plastic and the dampening adjustment knob on top are plastic. All of the moving parts inside, and everything else aluminium. Still, for our economy sake Im done buying foreign products unless 1. currency is of fair trade 2. the product is quality. in that order.

[theartofthecovenant]

@KevinRayKnight That's not identical to the Dragonfly if there's only one plastic part on it. My Dragonfly has lots of plastic parts. Have fun with it.

[KevinRayKnight]

It's identical. And I had not thought about getting solutions on the parts. The only thing on mine that is plastic is the little wheel that keeps tension on the needle bar. No problem to just keep several backups handy. The rest is made of aluminum. As for the rca, RCA makes for a more steady/solid connection, I know folks have been doing fine with clip cords for a long time but rca really does help. I think I will make my own bracket and fasten it down under the rear posts with plastic washers.

[theartofthecovenant]

@TATTOOTRAINING Yep, you know it. *sigh. 

[theartofthecovenant]

Oh, you were talking about the copy. My bad. I don't know about that. 

[theartofthecovenant]

@KevinRayKnight Yeah I look at what you're saying and I recall my own experience with the Dragonfly. There is like ZERO room there and you WILL run into a major issue if the install of an RCA isn't done delicately bro. Another thing that really gets to be a pain is the grommet issue *you'll see, and whatever you do, don't let ANY germicidal solution in any form come into contact with those rubberized parts. If you do, that shit'll start breaking down the materials and they gum up and seize.