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The Great Tribulation Past or Future Part 9

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Uploaded by on Apr 3, 2009

During American Vision's 2006 Worldview Super Conference, Gary Demar and Thomas Ice
debated the Great Tribulation: Past or Future?

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  • @theologymattrz cont... Sounds alot like Jehovah witnesses doctrine. Is there anywhere in scripture that talks about Saints with glorified bodies reproducing? The Millennial is suppose to be taken symbolic not literal. And if it where the case to take it literal the Post-Millenial position makes the most hermeneutical sense. You have to add to the scripture and ignore fulfilled prophecies and ignore history to be a dispensationalist. Partial Preterism or Amillenialism makes the most sense bibli

  • @theologymattrz some dispensationalist say that the Saints living in the " new Jerusalem " will reproduce and that their children will live outside the new Jerusalem and there will be a second fall of men. Where is that in scripture? No where! Dispensationalist have men with new Glorified Bodies having sex and reproducing during a " literal millennium " and there will be men with glorified bodies and men with no glorified bodies during that time. Not only this is not biblical sounds alot like J

  • @theologymattrz where in the Bible it shows a second fall of man after the Final Judgment that takes place after the second coming? And who are these people who the devil supposedly deceives during a " literal millennium"? Where not ALL men judged and cast to the lake of fire at the second coming? Dispensationalism is fallacy cannot be proven through scripture. I use to believe and dogmatically defended this false teaching.

  • Demar and his cohorts thrive on anti-dispensationalism, and much of their rhetoric is based on it.

    Dispensationalism Premillennialism can stand on it's own from a consistent biblical exegesis.

  • @theologymattrz I agree. The word "Bible" is not in the Bible. But we have no problem calling the Word of God "The Bible".

  • I agree that Demar's line of reasoning with the 5 questions is patently stupid. Obviously, we don't get our eschatology only from the NT. It's rooted in the OT. And much of it is by implication.It's like the Muslim who asks you to cite the NT verse where JEsus says "I am God, worship Me". Jesus doesn't ever say that exactly. It's implied by many other ways He proved He is God. IT was a disingenuous, hypocritical, and poor argumentation on Gary Demar's part to ask for specific verses like that.

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