@archelonprime The top marginal tax rate of 74% is a personal rate, not corp. Most people dont leave for taxation.some do. ( Lennon). As for "more jobs were in America" when the rate was 74%, unemployment was very low until 2009, historically speaking. BTW, it was 70% personal tax under Carter, when unemployment hit 12%. My post stated corporate rates, which are competitive with other countries, obviously. I agree taxes arent the only reason, unions, regulations, and environmental costs too
@luvcheney1 More jobs were in America (because more things were made in America) when the top marginal tax rate was *74%*! This top marginal rate is now less than half of what it was and yet the jobs were exported anyway. It's a more complex issue than tax rates. Do some research (instead of repeating neo-con propaganda) and you'll see why. But I'm not holding my breath.
@archelonprime In Calif, the top corp tax rate is about 45% ( State and Fed), and the rate in England is 28%, and the avg of the OECD nations is about 27% ( 30 nations). The US avg rate is 39%. WHY would any rational corp stay here? I think you COMPLAIN about jobs leaving, while you support ideology that is forcing them out. And you call me morally bankrupt? Too bad issues are not as transparent as you need them to be.
@luvcheney1 LOL! My goodness, another pretentious neo-con-artist promoting the mentally and morally bankrupt people that put money above all else and have shown themselves to be more dependent on the government than welfare check recipients. I wouldn't be surprised if you fail to see the connection between fewer things that are made in the USA and our insanely high national debt.
But let's keep bowing to the wishes of these people that hide behind corporations! What a load of tiresome shit!
@Talondas Wage slavery exists all over the world, but it's much worse in certain countries where there are less civil rights protections and where workers' unions have less power. Is the Oral-B factory you trained at in Iowa City? I live in Iowa City and my friend worked at the factory here. His job was to inspect the bristles and he hated it, but fortunately he had other opportunities and so unlike the Foxconn workers in China he didn't feel so hopeless as to commit suicide.
@MarmaladeINFP Proctor and Gamble / Oral-B do the exact same thing. The quarters they give their workers to live in house 8 people to a small room barely large enough to hold thier bunk beds...pictures were shown to us in a power point presentation that was part of the "training" for the factory workers in the Oral-B plant in Iowa.
@luvcheney1 Are you of the opinion that only affluent people and affluent countries matter? There has been reporting recently about a factory in China that makes parts for a lot of popular technology. The workers live in an enclosed factory, work long hours, are abused by management, make little money, often are injured and there is a very high suicide rate... but they make our cheap products. Yeah, wage slavery! Factories exist like that all over the world making products for WalMart.
@luvcheney1 So when a corporation moves a manufacturing plant from the usa to china so they can pay 40 cents per hour that's in the interest of the worker and the corporation?
@MarmaladeINFP Of course! Thats why WalMart is successful, people like low prices. If Liberty, freedom are words with meaning, then we need to be able to choose what we want, and not have some dope like Obama choose what kind of vehicles we drive. The Market.
@archelonprime The top marginal tax rate of 74% is a personal rate, not corp. Most people dont leave for taxation.some do. ( Lennon). As for "more jobs were in America" when the rate was 74%, unemployment was very low until 2009, historically speaking. BTW, it was 70% personal tax under Carter, when unemployment hit 12%. My post stated corporate rates, which are competitive with other countries, obviously. I agree taxes arent the only reason, unions, regulations, and environmental costs too
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 More jobs were in America (because more things were made in America) when the top marginal tax rate was *74%*! This top marginal rate is now less than half of what it was and yet the jobs were exported anyway. It's a more complex issue than tax rates. Do some research (instead of repeating neo-con propaganda) and you'll see why. But I'm not holding my breath.
archelonprime 1 year ago
@archelonprime In Calif, the top corp tax rate is about 45% ( State and Fed), and the rate in England is 28%, and the avg of the OECD nations is about 27% ( 30 nations). The US avg rate is 39%. WHY would any rational corp stay here? I think you COMPLAIN about jobs leaving, while you support ideology that is forcing them out. And you call me morally bankrupt? Too bad issues are not as transparent as you need them to be.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 LOL! My goodness, another pretentious neo-con-artist promoting the mentally and morally bankrupt people that put money above all else and have shown themselves to be more dependent on the government than welfare check recipients. I wouldn't be surprised if you fail to see the connection between fewer things that are made in the USA and our insanely high national debt.
But let's keep bowing to the wishes of these people that hide behind corporations! What a load of tiresome shit!
archelonprime 1 year ago
@Talondas Wage slavery exists all over the world, but it's much worse in certain countries where there are less civil rights protections and where workers' unions have less power. Is the Oral-B factory you trained at in Iowa City? I live in Iowa City and my friend worked at the factory here. His job was to inspect the bristles and he hated it, but fortunately he had other opportunities and so unlike the Foxconn workers in China he didn't feel so hopeless as to commit suicide.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@Talondas Quick edit - The factory I was refering to is in China. The one that I went to the training at is in Iowa.
Talondas 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP Proctor and Gamble / Oral-B do the exact same thing. The quarters they give their workers to live in house 8 people to a small room barely large enough to hold thier bunk beds...pictures were shown to us in a power point presentation that was part of the "training" for the factory workers in the Oral-B plant in Iowa.
Slavery is the correct word.
Talondas 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 Are you of the opinion that only affluent people and affluent countries matter? There has been reporting recently about a factory in China that makes parts for a lot of popular technology. The workers live in an enclosed factory, work long hours, are abused by management, make little money, often are injured and there is a very high suicide rate... but they make our cheap products. Yeah, wage slavery! Factories exist like that all over the world making products for WalMart.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 So when a corporation moves a manufacturing plant from the usa to china so they can pay 40 cents per hour that's in the interest of the worker and the corporation?
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP Of course! Thats why WalMart is successful, people like low prices. If Liberty, freedom are words with meaning, then we need to be able to choose what we want, and not have some dope like Obama choose what kind of vehicles we drive. The Market.
luvcheney1 1 year ago