How to experience jhana

a Great Western Vehicle video on an Ecstatic Buddhist meditation method that produces ecstatic altered states of consciousness known in the earliest Buddhist literature as 'jhana' or 'samadhi.'

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• Great Western Vehicle
• Ecstatic Buddhism
• jhana meditation technique
• contemplation
• spirituality
• yoga
• mystic
• shaman
• samadhi

[francisjbishop]

Cool. Thanks

[Jhananda]

@francisjbishop I am glad you appreciated my work

[Jhananda]

@jojajico One who has developed skill with meditation to the point of developing one or more of the 8 stages of contemplation is not likely to say to one's self, "I have attained the experience of loss of ego (ego death, non-dual awareness), thus I am an advanced meditator -- I am good -- I am unique." If one does, then one most probably is playing mind games.

[jojajico]

@Jhananda with respect, I believe that inference is not a logical necessity. The experience of loss of ego does not necessitate lack of ego building. One can say to themselves, "I have attained the experience of loss of ego (ego death, non-dual awareness), thus I am an advanced meditator -- I am good -- I am unique." All of which are potentially ego building statements.

Peace

[theunbinder3]

You keep saying meditation teachers don't know what they are talking about when it comes to jhanas. If they truly don't know, with your low jhana standards, what is the different between you and them. It is indeed pathetic.

[theunbinder3]

@Jhananda Reference to the physical body is not enough to conclude the presence of sensory domain (perception of sensuality). Clearly you don't understand perception (sanna). Only physical body (sense organ) is not enough without contact (phassa), consciousness and the object (to be perceived). If you say only physical body is sufficient, then you would agree that a corpse can perceive things with its eyes, ears, etc. So, based on this reason your interpretation is indeed warped.

[theunbinder3]

@Jhananda And also the word "nanattasanna", nanatta means "manifoldness" (idea of multiformity), thus your translation (variety of sensory perceptions) is not appropriate. This is why you got your interpretation twisted. This is the importance to seriuosly do your Pariyatti first, not later which only to support your opinion.

[theunbinder3]

@Jhananda You misunderstand between "rupasanna" and "kamasanna", i.e between rupa and kama. Rupa means "form" (physical domain), while kama means "sensuality" (sensory domain). What I was talking about is kamasanna, i.e perception of kama, which ceases in the 1st jhana (DN-9, read the pali, you'll find "kamasanna nirujhati" in the 1st jhana and "rupasanna nirujhati" in the 5th jhana). There is nothing about sensory domain in the 5th jhana, this is one proof of your twisted interpretation.

[theunbinder3]

@Jhananda Apparently you like to turn the tables around, committing baseless accusations. I didn't do any interpretation but you said: "warped interpretation of the suttas". In fact, the cessation of perception is mentioned EXPLICITLY in the suttas, one doesn't need to do any interpretation since it is already clearly mentioned there.

Let's see who has actually done a warped, twisted interpretation here. And I don't need you to believe my understanding, I just want to show you some facts.

[Jhananda]

@kentlim1000 most people who report the authentic experience of contemplation (jhana) report that the experience is a non-dual experience. A non duel experience is an experience of no-self, or loss of ego; therefore the experience if contemplation (jhana) cannot lead to building the ego.