The problem is Keith Al tabari and Ibn Ishaq that Qurtubi quoted are not respected scholars even Tabari said that he just reports on stories that were told them without carefully analyzing the authenticity of the stories. He said in his book that you might find things that are detestable. So your argument is weak since all muslim scholars don't agree with you
This is an irrelevant Point ur making not edifying and you are missing my point , I was making. lol . nothing you have said has told me anything contrary to the 1st comment i made
1: one who accepts and assists in spreading the doctrines of another: as a: one of the twelve in the inner circle of Christ's followers according to the Gospel accounts b: a convinced adherent of a school or individual .
Which goes back to my Original Statment i made.
"disciple,is different from (The disciples or the 12 disciples)..all the 12 were killed.."
1: one sent on a mission: as a: one of an authoritative New Testament group sent out to preach the gospel and made up especially of Christ's 12 original disciples and Paul b: the first prominent Christian missionary to a region or group 2 a: a person who initiates a great moral reform or who first advocates an important belief or system b: an ardent supporter : adherent3: the highest ecclesiastical official in some church organizations
Thank you Keith for your defense of the word and your life's dedication to it's defense and understanding! God bless
buddy85442 1 month ago
Kieth presents his evidence well and Nadir doesnt address what Kieth challenged him on. This was very one sided
lakai421 8 months ago
The problem is Keith Al tabari and Ibn Ishaq that Qurtubi quoted are not respected scholars even Tabari said that he just reports on stories that were told them without carefully analyzing the authenticity of the stories. He said in his book that you might find things that are detestable. So your argument is weak since all muslim scholars don't agree with you
KhalasAsif 1 year ago
In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, Matthew 3
30He must increase, but I must decrease.
SWAUVE4U 3 years ago
Scripture Does not say how John, James Brother dies..so, doesn't matter to me.. :)
I believe the died of Martyrdom for this is what Christ taught....
shalom
SWAUVE4U 3 years ago
You are describing the 12 Apostles. John the Baptist was not one of them. Again show me your sources. Thank you.
False information is not edifying.
OrlandoParty2K 3 years ago
This is an irrelevant Point ur making not edifying and you are missing my point , I was making. lol . nothing you have said has told me anything contrary to the 1st comment i made
SWAUVE4U 3 years ago
John the Baptist was murdered while John the Apostle died of old age. Read the works of Josephus.
OrlandoParty2K 3 years ago
There are disciples today.
1: one who accepts and assists in spreading the doctrines of another: as a: one of the twelve in the inner circle of Christ's followers according to the Gospel accounts b: a convinced adherent of a school or individual .
Which goes back to my Original Statment i made.
"disciple,is different from (The disciples or the 12 disciples)..all the 12 were killed.."
blessings ; )
SWAUVE4U 3 years ago
There are Apostles Today
1: one sent on a mission: as a: one of an authoritative New Testament group sent out to preach the gospel and made up especially of Christ's 12 original disciples and Paul b: the first prominent Christian missionary to a region or group 2 a: a person who initiates a great moral reform or who first advocates an important belief or system b: an ardent supporter : adherent3: the highest ecclesiastical official in some church organizations
SWAUVE4U 3 years ago