Alexander Petrov - Making of... p2

Режиссер-живописец Александр Петров рассказывает, как он создает свою анимацию.

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[vitalvital98]

гений планеты земля...

[yanndick]

too bad i don't speak russian at all...

[brettknoss]

Does Alexandre Petrov use rotoscoping for his animation? I find his people stiff and the type of cartoon animation done by Disney to be more lively but this method more fluid than the Disney ink and paint and looks more like a painting. I really like the 30 second Coca Cola ad Sundblom Santa.

[o82774]

Your point is well taken. BUT it doesn't exclude mine. You have definitely made it clear that Anime as an industry takes MUCH greater pains to encourage SUPPORT and ENCOURAGE the creativity of their best animators. TRUE.

Yet this does not mean this support has translated to a wide array of styles. It hasn't. In the west few industries are more creatively stifling than animation. Its a joke. YET the range of styles present in the west still far exceed the range in the east (on a certain level)

[RaymondoPerson]

@o82774 my point wasn't about indie anime but about how a lot of mainstream anime gives animators tons of freedom to use their individual styles

you said that every indie animator in the west has a unique style; in Japan, even mainstream commercial animators for kids' shows are treated as artists and allowed to stray from their given storyboards if the animation director likes creativity. and it's very common, as I said even the most popular shows have unique animators work on important scenes

[o82774]

@RaymondoPerson

Thanks. Even a connoisseur can be schooled. My area of expertise is really in identifying essential and nuanced qualities in the drawing styles of mainstream anime I have been exposed to. As you pointed out there is more to anime than the mainstream. Idefinitley will look up the workes you hipped me to. Thanks for taking the time to educate.

I still maintain (in quasi ignorance) that indie anime is way less prolific in the anime universe. Its good to know it exists though

[RaymondoPerson]

@o82774 for good examples of this, do a youtube search for "sakuga" or go to Catsuka's (google it) videos section, than "MAD/Sakuga". they're fan made music videos that show off individual animators' styles, often shown in very manistream productions.

the downside to this is that American anime fans downplay this aspect because they think there is no such thing as going intentionally off-model and having a unique animation style so they label unique key animation as bad or a 'mistake'

[RaymondoPerson]

@o82774 (continued AGAIN) many people like Masaaki Yuasa (the guy who made Mind Game, which Bill Plympton called "the Citizen Kane of animation") got their start working on extremely popular childrens' shows like Crayon Shin Chan and Chibi Maruko-chan and were allowed to do a lot of gorgeous, outstanding and unique segments for those shows back in the early 90s. today, even otherwise mediocre manga adaptations like One Piece and Naruto allow creative animators to go wild in certain episodes.

[RaymondoPerson]

@o82774 (continued) ..you have very little knowledge of the Japanese animation industry. in the west, people like Bill Plympton have to animate entire movies on their own and be "indie animators" to be able to have an auteur appeal to their work. meanwhile in Japan, not only does every really talented animator have their own style, THEY ARE ALSO ALLOWED TO FREELY USE IT WHILE DOING KEY ANIMATION FOR MAINSTREAM KIDS SHOWS if the animation director is good enough (and there are tons of good ones)

[RaymondoPerson]

@o82774 "There is no asian equivalent to indie animation" yeah there is but I don't really keep an eye out for that stuff so I can't name any off the top of my head. maybe they don't have big names like we do (or maybe they do, I dunno) but I'm sure it exists

"Think of western animation's COUNTLESS range of styles apparent in indie animation. EVERY animator practically has their own style" this applies to Japanese animation too, to a HUGE extent. you claim that you appreciate it but...

[o82774]

@RaymondoPerson

Ok fail is too strong a word. I do have a deep appreciation for the medium but it really has a limited repertoire of drawing styles, timing, disciplines (no stop-motion anime to my knowledge). Think of western animation's COUNTLESS range of styles apparent in indie animation. EVERY animator practically has their own style (then the get jobs and conform lol). There is no asian equivalent to indie animation. BUT as pure draughtsmanship goes anime is the king by far.

[RaymondoPerson]

@o82774 lol @ unironically calling yourself an "anime connoisseur"

and how does anime "fail creatively"? it has some serious issues with recycled character design, but on the other hand it's the only (as far as I know) animation industry that very commonly treats its individual key animators as artists even in mainstream tv productions.