In sankukai we had sparring every training so i learned how to take a punch but karate was a bit wooden for me so I spent some time boxing where we sparred once a week, got beatings quite a few times hahahaha. No i try to implement some karate techniques back to my style of fighting because karate gives you some great basics and footwork. I wish you all the best in Judo!
Wise words my friend. Haha i also thought immediately on wankin kata when i saw the name. Unfortunately you have right a lot of dojos are just concentrating on fancy techniques and doing katas like robots, this doen't teach you how to fight, you are not a fighter you are just delusioned. I think a real fighter has to participate in sparring as much as he can, especially when he is scared and opponent is better. Living with fear is what makes a fighter.I studied Sankukai and boxing
I used to giggle when someone was told to practice their "wankin" kata. Of course that was when I was 7 and just knew it sounded like a naughty word. Now I do Judo. I liked the katas and strength of the movements and sances in Karate but I also wanted more sparring to learn how to apply the techniques on people who knew how to recieve them. Uke I suppose. Sadly unless you do Kyukoshin Karate and don't mind getting kicked in the face then Karate is not really good for sparring.
@jingeshan24 Actually there is another Wankan of Okinawan origin which looks nothing like the Wankan of Shotokan. The two Wankans were discussed in a Black Belt magazine article a number of years ago. Robert Redmond mentioned these different Wankans in his book "Kata: The Folk Dances of Shotokan".
Oh, sorry . Missunderstood. Kata get changed for a variety of reasons, often due to practitioners wanting to teach them...but they don't have the official right or permission to do so. So you alter them and call it something else.
Or, much as when Karate was changed and altered to make a sport (which I think this one resembles) a new, different version of a kata might have been developed. Or a student doesn't truly understand the kata, so he changes it "taking out what is unneeded".
Matsubayashi-Ryu. I do the same kata, although I practice Kobayashi. I can see that our okan, or wankan, is the orgin of this kata. What I don't know is why the changes were made?
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RGBA1225 5 days ago
wow, thats a pretty cool kata! i look forward to learning it one day :)
izzzzzzzzzzzzzi 8 months ago
@LukeQuietus
In sankukai we had sparring every training so i learned how to take a punch but karate was a bit wooden for me so I spent some time boxing where we sparred once a week, got beatings quite a few times hahahaha. No i try to implement some karate techniques back to my style of fighting because karate gives you some great basics and footwork. I wish you all the best in Judo!
Thindza 11 months ago
@LukeQuietus
Wise words my friend. Haha i also thought immediately on wankin kata when i saw the name. Unfortunately you have right a lot of dojos are just concentrating on fancy techniques and doing katas like robots, this doen't teach you how to fight, you are not a fighter you are just delusioned. I think a real fighter has to participate in sparring as much as he can, especially when he is scared and opponent is better. Living with fear is what makes a fighter.I studied Sankukai and boxing
Thindza 11 months ago
I used to giggle when someone was told to practice their "wankin" kata. Of course that was when I was 7 and just knew it sounded like a naughty word. Now I do Judo. I liked the katas and strength of the movements and sances in Karate but I also wanted more sparring to learn how to apply the techniques on people who knew how to recieve them. Uke I suppose. Sadly unless you do Kyukoshin Karate and don't mind getting kicked in the face then Karate is not really good for sparring.
LukeQuietus 1 year ago
@ArashikageNinjaClan intresting... i will check it out!
jingeshan24 1 year ago
@jingeshan24 Actually there is another Wankan of Okinawan origin which looks nothing like the Wankan of Shotokan. The two Wankans were discussed in a Black Belt magazine article a number of years ago. Robert Redmond mentioned these different Wankans in his book "Kata: The Folk Dances of Shotokan".
ArashikageNinjaClan 1 year ago
@jdtwk123 i'm sorry to tell you but this is the only wankan there is...
you prorbablly been taught a different kata with its name mistaken with wankan...
jingeshan24 1 year ago
Oh, sorry . Missunderstood. Kata get changed for a variety of reasons, often due to practitioners wanting to teach them...but they don't have the official right or permission to do so. So you alter them and call it something else.
Or, much as when Karate was changed and altered to make a sport (which I think this one resembles) a new, different version of a kata might have been developed. Or a student doesn't truly understand the kata, so he changes it "taking out what is unneeded".
jdtwk123 2 years ago
Exactly,
Matsubayashi-Ryu. I do the same kata, although I practice Kobayashi. I can see that our okan, or wankan, is the orgin of this kata. What I don't know is why the changes were made?
ronin752 2 years ago