Lyndon LaRouche Firewall Part 9

Like Weimar Germany, the productive capacity of our real economy has been destroyed. However, we have done this to ourselves, through our adherence to the belief in globalization.

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[robertburke101]

I like this LaRouche guy! who is the guy with the beard?

Thanks for posting it!!

[louishollis]

Not to many American's will get through it if it happens they have lived and enjoyed their way of living for a long time now (spend) (spend) (spend) (spend) (spend) not enough of the (save) (save) (save) (save) your world dominance will soon come to an end.

[makelle]

@CorrosionX3 You're mistaken, what's making ground is democracy. Ppl are ridding themselves from self-righteous rulers and dictators who think they own ppls lives and ppl demand their rights. A farmer in China couldn't be more free according to libertarianism but it's not what he is looking for; it's democracy and true freedom.

Humans created societies for the common good. Why would a dictator give up his rule meanwhile libertarians simply go about minding their 'own business'?

[CorrosionX3]

@makelle And this individualist, libertarian stances against abusive and intrusive, wasteful, bloated government is making grounds every day, in all parts of the world. You won't be able to stop people from living their lives peacefully and ignoring bureaucratic mandates. They never have enough control, in a few years they'll put cameras in your house or a microchip in you and you'll just take it if you continue allowing bureaucrats to control your life because somehow "democracy" made it ok.

[CorrosionX3]

@makelle You're making it seem as thought the choice is between your kind of collectivism or the islamic collectivism. Wrong again. The choice is between individualism and collectivism, and you're on the same collectivist side as the Islamists. They use a book to justify their tyranny, you would use a majority vote.

[CorrosionX3]

@makelle Wrong. All a democratic society can do is vote statutes for itself, which are rules of a society given the force of law by the consent of the governed. All laws making marijuana possession illegal do not apply to me, there are no victims and I don't consent to the statute making it illegal. I'm not confused, I know what my rights are. You're confused because you think your society owns you and tells you what your rights are.

[makelle]

@CorrosionX3 You're really confused. If you want to influence or in any way deal with society there are but two ways in reality to do that. Since you obviously wish to function as a normal person with friends there is really only one way open. So either you take a democratic stance or a non-democratic e g like any of those Islamic nations. Now in a non-democratic society you you can only dream of rights. You actually sound like a mullah who advocate Sharia laws i e a special code for themselves.

[CorrosionX3]

@makelle No democracy gets to vote my rights away. If you accept it, fine for you, but I don't, and I consider it an infringement and a crime against me.

[makelle]

@CorrosionX3 Sure there are govt's that repress the ppl but that's not an excuse for not having a democracy. And yes power structure should be in the hands of democratically elected members in a democratic society. I don't believe in haphazardly collected power constellations with no laws preventing them from using power arbitrarily.

The thing is that we'll always have govt's, democratic or not. Govt's don't want chaos and only bad ones create chaos. Bad govt's are inevitably undemocratic.

[makelle]

@CorrosionX3 "Government can never be legitimate...", you say. What then can be legitimate? And, oh yes, I give that to you that it may attract "evil" people but then again also good people are, but then again good people tend to be preferred.

I don't see your point with everybody being a volunteer and having no say in society, with no laws. And you rather pay private corporations money(taxes are also money, you know) for services that are bound to cost more than government funded utilities.

[makelle]

@CorrosionX3 Only democracy can guarantee your individual rights. If you forget that you're just an animal, nothing else and then you 'choose' what's given without a say. Individual rights comes from a common effort and that's why humans have civilizations and not cows, mice or even pigs.

You mentioned that "every relationship I have is voluntary", I beg to differ. Your first relationship certainly wasn't and that's also a coincidence among circa six billion others on this planet!