Undocumented Immigrant Debate: Daniel T. Griswold (3 of 12)

"Let's stop welcoming undocumented immigrants"

Moderator: John Hockenberry
Speaking for the motion: Vernon M. Briggs, Jr., Mark Krikorian and Heather Mac Donald
Speaking against the motion: Daniel T. Griswold, Enrique Morones and Karen K. Narasaki

IQ2US marks the launch of Oxford-style debating -- one motion, one moderator, three advocates for the motion, three against -- in New York City. Each evening begins at 6:00P with a complimentary cocktail period. As you enter the theater before the debate starts at 6:45P, you cast your vote for or against the evening's motion. Those results are displayed midway through the debate as each side makes its statements. After all six panelists speak, the audience has a chance to ask the speakers questions and vote again. The debate finishes with brief summations from the panelists, the votes are tallied and a winning side is declared.

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News & Politics

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• u.s.
• iq2
• debate
• illegal
• aliens
• immigration
• reform
• borders
• latino
• hispanic
• minutemen

[alkalinecluster]

Very well-constructed argument. Realistic, grown-up, and happily is not lacking sense of rationality... that's a first.

[jakeyw11]

Dan Griswold is 100% correct on this issue. I find it embarrassing that people who decended from immigrants are so brainwashed by their sense of entitlement that they no longer think anyone else should be able to immigrate to America with the hopes of finding a better life for themselves and their families.

[juscurious]

@seans10 ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! This guy is a complete clown & I'll agree that types like Griswald never have to suffer the negative consequences of immigration. I know these types of liberals & they are nothing if not hypocrites. They live in gated & guarded communities, go to gated & guarded private clubs, send their kids to nice, clean, safe private schools. Their lives are not negatively effected in any ways. So they can afford to be smug. If they had to live in other area, they would change.

[juscurious]

This Daniel Griswold is an absolute clown. He is the quintessential example of what is know as an educated idiot.

Anyone who lives in an area where there are large numbers of illegal immigrants or even legal immigrants can testify to the fact that the overall quality of life has declined. This is chiefly do to the huge increase in crime and other social problems. I cannot think of a single exception.

The Democrats want illegal immigrants because they are counting on them as a voting block.

[Twilightifyable]

C SPAN "Black Republican Forum" Session 2 (begin at 11:30) Allen West stated part of Amnesty of 1986 was to secure our borders and enforcement our laws, but haven't happened. (We're still talking about new amnesty like DREAM Act.) We can't allow local cities to make sanctuary cities policies, because they will bring our inner city turf wars to epic proportions by bringing in the drug cartel and Columbian gangs. (Mexican Gangs don't recognize US borders established Treaty of Guadalupe)

[Twilightifyable]

In November 2010, the unemployment rate was 9.8% with 15.1 million unemployed. (15.1 million/9.8%) = 154 million are able to work in the workforce. 11,941,812 (or 11.9 million) skilled jobs provided to illegal immigrants. GOOGLE “illegal immigration counters”, the 15.1 million unemployed could take the 11.9 million available jobs. The unemployment rate could be reduced to 2.1% {{15.1-11.9)/154}

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Allen West 2012

[mrluke13]

you sound like you are agianst undoc workers...full of anger, hate, name calling and vulgar language.....well you blood pressure must be high so in a few years....we'll get rid of all you ding dongs from the golden 50's and the rest of the world can move ahead.

[seans10]

I don't know it for a fact, shithead. It's probable, asshole. Probable. Now, please go fuck yourself.

[mrluke13]

how the hell do you know? idiot

[Lawlow1978]

why doesnt anyone ever bring up the fact that the US has caused the very reasons people of mexico and central america flee their countries in the first place?????????????

[seans10]

I'll bet this Griswald guy doesn't have to send his kids to a public school wherein half the students are "english-language learners." Nope. It's poor kids, whose one shot at a better life is pulled out from under them so that this asshole's rich friends can have cheap labor.