Greg Boyd - Thoughts on Eternal Punishment, Part 1

In his sermon on January 11, 2009, pastor Greg Boyd questions a Christian tradition in which those destined for Hell will suffer torture and punishment throughout eternity. Boyd believes another early Church tradition teaching on Hell, though not as commonly accepted, is solidly backed by Scripture. Part 1 of 3. The full sermon can be viewed or heard at: http://www.whchurch.org/content/page_910.htm. Greg Boyd recommends The Conditionalist Faith of Our Fathers by LeRoy Edwin Froom for additional reading.

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[whatthehellbook]

God's love & mercy either endures forever or it doesn't. He cannot punish people for all of eternity and have grace & mercy endure forever. One has to be true and one has to be a lie. Since the Scriptures say over and over again that it endures forever, I believe it lasts forever. God will judge fairly, how He sees fit. The Bible does not teach eternal punishment. He tells us to love our enemies. Will He turn around and eternally torment His? Love never fails.

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[caucazhin]

@AaronM144000 @AaronM144000 I think your right. Im not an open theist but GB is really very in depth in many ways but he seems way off base in many others. People should really put their skull caps on and dig deep in their bible when listening 2 him.

He seems to be humanizing the bible to his own liking more & more

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[ShadowSpring2]

They take to their itching ears what they want to hear: that they are more special than anyone else, and that their works of fundamentalists doctrine and all the wars they fight on behalf of their dogma are going to be rewarded by God. Part of that reward for them is,in their minds, is the eternal torment of everyone who did not play along. Yes, they hear what they want to hear. what pats their egos and gives them power.

[ShadowSpring2]

Fundamentalists want to believe in hell because they hate the world that Jesus loves. In their pride and arrogance they want to believe that they are chosen and precious, while the rest of the world is....not.

[kargelr]

This perspective is far more rational than a "just" God torturing someone eternally for 70 years worth of bad choices. No matter how bad those choices are, eternity by definition outweighs them all, making the God who subjects people to eternal damnation unjust.

[TheVildee]

Who is this guy? I just got a message from a user named "gregboyds" (don't know if he has anything to do with him), and it said "Fuck Norway, may all norwegians burn in hell". This is probably not from him but from some idiot that used his name I suppose...

[jaydeeangelo]

Respond to this video... This video is a perversion of the gospel because it is coming from the self not the Spirit. The self is the chaff that burns. The self is the enemy that wars against the spirit that is cast into the Lake of Fire. The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus, that we are crucified with Christ and no longer live but Christ lives in us. Deny Self. Self has been crucified, killed with Christ, that Christ is now resurrected in human vessels. That is the gospel

[jaydeeangelo]

@whatthehellbook Jesus has already taken our punishment. "But this man (Jesus), after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever (His own life), sat down on the right hand of God." Heb. 10:12 That is why he will not send us to Hell. It is the self/I/ego that is the chaff that burns. "I/self/ego am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I but Christ lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by the Faith OF the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

[HackerzInc]

@N2truth7 exactly, they like what tickles their ears.

[N2truth7]

@HackerzInc You're right man. Young's is highly speculative at best. The thing is that when you ask them for the reasons why it's a "better" translation there is no educated reason why. The simple fact is that they like it because it serves their agenda.

[N2truth7]

@whatthehellbook I like how you just skirted on by his referernce to Judas without any commentary. My question is, what makes Young's translation better? Who says that it's more accurate? Why would a individual, self taught, so-called expert who translated a bible by himself be more reputable than the teams of scholars who have translated the scriptures?