Twirch Ringen (Outdated Interpretations)

SEVERAL OF THE INTERPRETATIONS IN THIS VIDEO ARE OUTDATED. AN UPDATED VIDEO CAN BE VIEWED HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvkPLvoH1vI&feature=channel_page

Category:

Sports

Tags:

• ringen
• wrestle
• wrestling
• medieval
• kampfringen
• liechtenauer
• wallerstein
• grappling
• WMA
• HEMA
• Martial
• Arts
• MEMAG

[yelunatic]

I would say that your are about 70-80% correct on your interpretations - better than most of the attempts I have seen in some books. It is obvious to me thogh, that you guys have never wrestled, trained in Judo or any type of grappling before.

[MEMAG]

These interpretations are out of date, along with most of the stuff on our other videos. We've had a lot of experience and learning since shooting this, working with highly experienced wrestlers and such. Our current interpretation is better, and our skill level is much higher than what is shown here. Thanks for the comment!

[DrMabuse2006]

Cool. I read some of that stuff on Wikipedia. But couldn't make much from the drawings. Nice to see them beeing performed. Make some more of it. And maybe you could show how it could work in real life self defence situations?

[MEMAG]

Thank you! We plan on showing a series of counters to punches shown in the same book.

[Leondrian]

Very nice ringen clip. Made me understand much of what we were doing in January at our school. Now I can watch this clip and hopefully kick some ass next time we're doing ringen.

[MEMAG]

Thanks!

[SoundwaveSuperior373]

its sad how europeans didnt preserve their art when firearms came out

[haralfhalgrada]

porqué usar artes marciales japonesas,si lo europeos tenemos nuestras propias artes marciales no?

[ravensrun3]

i especially like the updated versions, just not sure what some of you mean by "outdated interpretations". the one individual even suggests that if you had done judo or something itd be better. this is not judo and its not supposed to be. doing things the modern way does not make the old techniques more authentic (it may make them work better yes, but then it may not be ringen anymore, just modified judo) anyway... cool

[the26thhour]

I find ur vids fascinating.

I see you've sought out the wisdom of modern wrestlers, is it possible to upload a reinterpretation of the work cause at this stage, it appears that the stronger man would always win in the end, by they way you're doing it.

p.s. great music & well done lads - from Australia.

[MsResearcher2010]

Good job, guys! Best regards from Russia!

[Heidenreich18]

which sources do you used for this ?just the codex wallerstein? or something from talhoffer or meister ott ?

[peterkvideo]

Great! Now we can see the origins of modern European wrestling (like freestyle or Greco-Roman)!

[megasayajinsongoku99]

@GuamKomudo I will start Davate in some months, so I don;t know very much about it . But if you see on old videos on youtube Savate has spinning back kicks and and other techniques more for real fighting ...

Savate was not only for the sailors , later I think it included other techniques from medieval french arts (parisian arts) and was used primary for selfdefense and streetfights .. Later it included english boxing ...

[GuamKomudo]

I have seen to many people throw jumping kicks and spin kicks, axe kicks, these kicks are not Savate, they are from Korean Taekkyun and Taekwondo. Savate originally has tons of kicks, but not the Korean originals like spinning hook kick, jump roundhouse. You couldn't do a jump kick on a ship... You would risk falling too easy. I'm not saying that Savate is not savate anymore, I'm just saying there's like 2 or 3 kicks that are used in it that arn't from France or any European country.

[megasayajinsongoku99]

@GuamKomudo Savate and kicks from Korea lol ??? You are wrong in this point .... Savate is a 100 % european martial art ...... Savate has a long tradition in France . Click in youtoube to see old savate videos and you will see that Savate was always in this form . And this is not only for sport , the true form from Savate is Savate de Rue and this has the whole body as a weapon and is for selfdefense , not for sport ...

[GuamKomudo]

Savate has changed alot though... It takes lots of kicks from Korea. But most of Savate is legit, and they have hard shoes =O haha

[megasayajinsongoku99]

@GuamKomudo As you know Europe has also a rich native tradition in combat arts . This videos has techniques from Ringen( ''Kampfringen'') . Ringen is the traditional martial art of the Germans . The French have Savate and ''greco-roman'' wrestling. The British boxing (old pugilism) and wrestling ( catch wrestling) ... The Scandinavians Glima and Lausatoek Glima is also for selfdefense with striking..... Glima was used from the Vikings :-)