Controversial Call from Ursuline-Mooney Game

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Uploaded by on Oct 23, 2009

Ursuline recovered the ball in the endzone for a touchdown. They proceeded to run a 2pt conversion and convert it to make it 14-0. However, the refs overturned the call even after Ursuline scored the 2pt conversion. So what is it? Touchdown, Intentional Grounding, or just an all around terrible call by the refs?

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  • After Ursuline ran a successful 2pt conversion, the refs huddled up and then proceeded to reverse the touchdown and giving Ursuline a safety. From watching the replay, the refs never asked Ursuline if they would have wanted to decline the penalty, giving them the ball inside the Mooney 15 or so.

    However, these is no denying the refs royally screwed Ursuline over because you cannot overturn a call once another play is run!

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  • @ytown

    Based on the video, I'd say the refs got it right. Intentional grounding in the end zone is the right final call and, if they got it wrong initially, until the kickoff one way or the other it falls under the category of "correctable error." SAFETY.

    Thanks for posting the video. Actually interesting, unlike most.

  • If they decline the penalty, assuming they could, don't you just have an incomplete pass? No fumble, and no reason to decline the penalty.

  • If anything, you could have potentially had forward progress at the 2. However, when forward progress is ruled out, then according to National Federation rules, the ONLY option is a safety. Intentional grounding is considered an illegal forward pass. So, it is as though a pass never occurred and is actually just a run. I know it doesn't sound right, but it is. Therefore, whether they accept the foul or not, the end of the run is in the endzone. SAFETY! Great job by the officials to get it right.

  • The whistle was not blown...so the forward progress argument is out. You cannot decline an Intentional Grounding call in the endzone...so that argument is out. There is a rule in the NCAA and the NFL that you cannot review a play after a conversion is ran...there is no such rule on the books currently in the OHSAA. The conversion is considered an untimed, un-numbered down that is a continuation of a TD. Since it's a continuation...the refs can overturn it and make the correct call.

  • looks like an illegal forward pass in the endzone to me. Safety  the white hat was there, what did they call?

  • Judging from this it's either dead-ball on the 2 due to forward progress being stopped, or intentional grounding in the endzone if you don't rule forward progress. BUT, once another play is run (the 2pt conversion in this case) there's no overturning a prevously-run play, even if the call they change to is correct. Even then, Ursuline would have the option of declining the penalty and taking the ball at the line of scrimmage from which the 4th down play started.

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