Phil using an epipen. funny reaction and pain

phil got stung by a bee and if he didnt use this he would have died...

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[vaporizethis]

thank fully when i had to use mine i was already at the allegy clinic where i get my shots. the got me in the arm and they had to fill me up with benadryl and other med so my heart was beating fast bud i was drowsy

[andrewsapirate]

@OReillygetarealjob It is not my choice. Our paramedics have these things called protocols. You must not work in emergency medicine. Our medical director, who is an Emergency physician (ER doctor) rights these protocols. We must follow these rules. In our protocols, before administering epi via autoinjector, we must cut the pants or remove them. We must NOT administer through clothing. I think our medical director who is a licensed medical doctor knows more than you regarding this issue.

[OReillygetarealjob]

@andrewsapirate Potential infection of the injection site is of least concern when you're going into shock. The infection risk is minimal with just the one stick and can be treated later. Put the immediate life threat first and don't bother with your clothes.

[Master11782]

@andrewsapirate That is pretty cool, it gets annoying sometimes when we always have to call medical control to get permission for certain things. I am volunteer now, but when I get my EMT-B licence I want to apply for an EMS job in the FDNY.

[andrewsapirate]

@Master11782 I am in Minnesota, and I am a paid Firefighter Medic with St.Paul FD. That is the same as with our EMT's, however, the medics operate under our medical director's (physicians) license. So they can act in whatever way they feel necessary.

[Master11782]

@andrewsapirate I am in Suffolk County, New York (Long Island). We can give the first dose of epi, but if we feel we need to give a second dose we need to call medical control. Our medics need to as well even though many of them give the second dose of epi (if needed) intravenously. Where are you at, and are you paid or volunteer?

[andrewsapirate]

@Master11782 We have standing orders. A EMT-Paramedic in our service can make the decision to administer whatever we feel is needed to save someones life, or comfort them if in pain. As a paramedic we do not need permission to administer anything, for example: like in a cardiac arrest situation. We just document the CRAP out of everything. As an EMT-B in our service, if not with a medic, you need permission from a physician regardless. Where are you located at? Everywhere is different.

[Master11782]

@andrewsapirate I am in an EMT-B class right now and we are taught the exact same thing. The only question I have is do your protocols let you give a second dose without the permission on medical control?

[LoveBustinJieber]

Dammmmmmmn. Ouch!

[andrewsapirate]

@TheTibarr I'm a paramedic. We (medics) definitely do not administer epinephrine through clothing. This is at the emergency ACLS level. By the time we arrive the person is at their last breath so we will be removing clothing regardless. Being that you are not an emergency medical provider, do as you wish and administer epi to you're liking. I just thought I would warn of the possibilities.