Rare Earth

A look at 12 main reasons why the earth itself and life on earth is rare. Listen to these facts and consider if God has made the universe or if we are just here by accident.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• evolution
• ID
• intelligent design
• creation
• atheism
• theism
• rare earth
• Rare Earth
• God
• Creator

[tskasa1]

Just because the universe LOOKS designed it means that it is? There are COUNTLESS things in nature that LOOKED designed but are NOT.

Now, on to these points:

1) Okay... This already exists in our universe, so no big deal...

2) Again, this is already part of our universe and there is no need for god to explain how this came about (stellar nucleosynthesis)

3) Appropriate settings DO occur, but they are EXTREMELY rare

[spacenie]

@tskasa1

Sorry- what 3 points are you referring to?

Do you believe in either a universe which has always existed or that created itself?

[tskasa1]

So...we know of about ~350~400 planets outside of the solar system, the VAST majority of them are gas giants several times bigger than Jupiter. To put this into perspective, it is estimated that 1 in 4 stars will develop planets, there are about 200 BILLION stars in the Milky Way GALAXY ALONE. And we are just an averaged size galaxy, and one of many, MANY billions of galaxies. Furthermore, we'd have to get down to the surface to find life, we can't do it from here....

[spacenie]

@tskasa1

Have you read the book by Peter D. Ward & Donald Brownlee? They and others come to a different conclusion. In any case, a main point is that life, especially at the DNA level, is incredibly complex and interfunctional. Not something at all that one would find in a Creatorless universe.

[theDerailled1]

@spacenie "not something that one would find in a Creatorless universe".In order to make that statement true you must know of a creatorless universe and have compared it to ours.We only have this universe as an example and with no specific creator to speak of we are simply talking about a very complex"magician"capable of doing anything on a whim.How does that seem more reasonable then natural causes.Lets not repeat the same mistake our ancestors made by using"god did it"and just admit ignorance

[spacenie]

@theDerailled1

The reasons that the authors go through in this book (and others like it) lead me to believe that natural causes do not explain both the complexity of the universe nor the fine tuning for life on earth.

See for example- godandscience (org/evolution/specifiedcomple­xity.html)

bethinking (org/science-christianity/inte­rmediate/a-change-of-mind-for-­antony-flew.htm)

Plus, the universe did not create itself and has not always existed.

[Saukko31]

First, we don't know how rare or common Earth-like planets are in the universe, we don't yet have the capability to detect planets that small.

And again, none of your arguments had anything to do with evolution.

See my video response for more.

[Saukko31]

I posted a video response.

No, they don't argue for God, and they don't certainly argue against evolution, none of the points said anything about it.

[tskasa1]

@spacenie

Anywho, back to the point about life's being complex...that matters because? Yes, it is relatively complex for humans to understand. Yet when one looks at it from the point of chemical interactions they are relatively simple and can arise through completely naturalistic means as they do naught but express already prexisting physical laws of the universe.

[tskasa1]

@spacenie

"In any case, a main point is that life, especially at the DNA level, is incredibly complex and interfunctional."

Life, by definition, is simpler at the DNA level than it is at the larger levels.

"Not something at all that one would find in a Creatorless universe."

You know...Isaac Newton said the exact same thing about the stability of the solar system in a universe in which a divine being did not periodically make adjustments to the laws of gravity...and he was wrong.

[tskasa1]

@spacenie

Oops, wait, my bad. Sorry, huge screw up. Regardless, they are based on his three main points. And still the self creating kind.