Because of this I left ken-do quite fast and started Ninjutsu.
Looks not so epic like this old one,but fast,deadly and effective.
Well I should recognize that weapons are modified,even Katana.And after some experience you start to make your own ones,90% of them are hidden in order to kill in one blow.
However....good techs for a fair fight,but not for killing.From my experience real fight takes end in 5 secs in one blow.
Everyones right, the styles are just different. Katori is for the battlefield and very effective, Eishin is about perfection and esthetic beauty, like th o cha no or tea ceremony. The technical ability and focus required is the same for both, one is faster thats all. One point is because Eishin is slower its easier to see mistakes
Another point is that giving more energy and tension and propelling than necessary to do the cut toward the end of the cut is a rather sure way to interrupt rythm and be "killed" by your opponent. Same idea regarding zanshin moments after each cut that are here very very short (they are really damn fast!) and focused on the sole adversary (these kata are representing a face to face duel). From your iaido practice or Miyamoto Musachi's book of 5th elements, I think you know what I mean.
Oh, I forgot to mention something to QnWorks. You have the feeling that they are more flying and turning that fighting. It's due to the veeery high level of practice, and the damn speed at which they are executing the various kata. At much lower speed and with all the dead intervals of apprentices, an error from one of the 2 practicer can very easily severe a couple of fingers, or a nose. Trust me, I experienced it.
@Sarva07 & Qnworks : No "fancy" or "entertainement" moves in all iaido katas from what I see and what I know of Katory Shinto Ryu. I think humbly that some moves may look weird vs. other Iaido Ryu because it is designed to fit situations that are not self-explanatory by looking at the kata. You also have to bear in mind that KSR iai & kenjutsu moves are adapted to suit the wearing of an armor (including helmet).
@Sarva07 Well I do Muso Jikiden Eishin-ryu so thats why it was so strange to me.
Actually the MJER is for battle too except we don't get to use it. I am not saying that this Katori Shinto Ryu is worse than what I do, but I've seen some pretty strange movements in this video which seemed a bit illogical to me. Not like I am a wise 8 dan master so I can be terribly wrong. Actually when I wrote my first comment a month ago I didn't even knew that so many different type of Iaido exist. Thx for info!
@QnWorks it's Katori Shinto Ryu...it's different from other ryu style cause it was founded over 500 years old, designed for battlefield...I also think that this demo was also more for enterteinment than for real accurate demonstration of the kata
Because of this I left ken-do quite fast and started Ninjutsu.
Looks not so epic like this old one,but fast,deadly and effective.
Well I should recognize that weapons are modified,even Katana.And after some experience you start to make your own ones,90% of them are hidden in order to kill in one blow.
However....good techs for a fair fight,but not for killing.From my experience real fight takes end in 5 secs in one blow.
arslama 2 months ago
Amazing kata!
tkbomber 9 months ago
Everyones right, the styles are just different. Katori is for the battlefield and very effective, Eishin is about perfection and esthetic beauty, like th o cha no or tea ceremony. The technical ability and focus required is the same for both, one is faster thats all. One point is because Eishin is slower its easier to see mistakes
toshishimura 1 year ago
Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu Is one of the oldest styles in japan and this is the only considered a national treasure.
jprridolfi 1 year ago
Another point is that giving more energy and tension and propelling than necessary to do the cut toward the end of the cut is a rather sure way to interrupt rythm and be "killed" by your opponent. Same idea regarding zanshin moments after each cut that are here very very short (they are really damn fast!) and focused on the sole adversary (these kata are representing a face to face duel). From your iaido practice or Miyamoto Musachi's book of 5th elements, I think you know what I mean.
yanoghourt 1 year ago
Oh, I forgot to mention something to QnWorks. You have the feeling that they are more flying and turning that fighting. It's due to the veeery high level of practice, and the damn speed at which they are executing the various kata. At much lower speed and with all the dead intervals of apprentices, an error from one of the 2 practicer can very easily severe a couple of fingers, or a nose. Trust me, I experienced it.
yanoghourt 1 year ago
@Sarva07 & Qnworks : No "fancy" or "entertainement" moves in all iaido katas from what I see and what I know of Katory Shinto Ryu. I think humbly that some moves may look weird vs. other Iaido Ryu because it is designed to fit situations that are not self-explanatory by looking at the kata. You also have to bear in mind that KSR iai & kenjutsu moves are adapted to suit the wearing of an armor (including helmet).
yanoghourt 1 year ago
@QnWorks well, like i said, some moves were surely for enterteinment...keep it up with laido then! i also would like to practice it someday
Sarva07 1 year ago
@Sarva07 Well I do Muso Jikiden Eishin-ryu so thats why it was so strange to me.
Actually the MJER is for battle too except we don't get to use it. I am not saying that this Katori Shinto Ryu is worse than what I do, but I've seen some pretty strange movements in this video which seemed a bit illogical to me. Not like I am a wise 8 dan master so I can be terribly wrong. Actually when I wrote my first comment a month ago I didn't even knew that so many different type of Iaido exist. Thx for info!
QnWorks 1 year ago
@QnWorks it's Katori Shinto Ryu...it's different from other ryu style cause it was founded over 500 years old, designed for battlefield...I also think that this demo was also more for enterteinment than for real accurate demonstration of the kata
Sarva07 1 year ago