ACCORDING TO ARMENIAN LOGIC, WE SHOULD ALL SCREAM "GENOCIDE"

Ottoman Empire didn't exterminate Armenians who lived side by side with us for centuries.... Armenians were DEPORTED because they BETRAYED their own homeland COMMITTING TREASON and ATTACHING FROM WITHIN, KILLING UNARMED CIVILIANS.

ANY COUNTRY HAS THE DIVINE RIGHT TO PROTECT ITS LAND AND PEOPLE FROM ENEMY

That's what Ottoman Empire did, deported the "enemy"! It is called DEFENSE SINCE ARMENIA TOOK THE FIRST PUNCH!

During WW1, just in Ottoman soil, Russians, TURK & KURDS THAT ARMENIANS KILLED and yes Armenians were killed AS AN ACT OF WAR!

If what happened to Armenian in 1915 was a "genocide" then with that logic, Russians and Turkey should claim "genocide" too!

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com

http://www.armeniangenocidedebate.com

http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr

http://realgenocide.blogcu.com

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[FuLLiTurk]

A competent tribunal was set in motion, to find individual Ottomans guilty of massacres. This was the Malta Tribunal. It never went to trial, because for over two years, its administrators could not find evidence for conviction. The archives of several nations were searched, including the archives of the United States, and certainly the archives of the Ottoman Empire, which was under the control of the British occupying Istanbul. Every accused was set free at the en

[FuLLiTurk]

Why Armenians afraid of discussing these subjects infront of history?Because its easier to win around Europe-where Turkish haterade at its maximum-Isnt it interesting that all armenia genocide laws are coming up to countries which have elections in a near future?

Gentlemen wake up,history can not be altered with the politicans and not always the most crying is the most correct.If you ever try to be fair once in a while you may understand what I am saying.

[Arzive]

One last argument. This one is using your logic:

"The British themselves reject...."

"France, Russia, Italy, Greece, Kurds, and the American Archives and historians, International Association of Genocide Scholar themselves reject your denial."

Mind you, all countries involved in the Ottoman Empire at the time recognize the genocide because their historians have solid evidence in their archives.

The Turkish denial is a scheme, and it's working on 70 million people in a single country only.

[Arzive]

Yeah, sure. Whenever the Turkish side exposes itself, we named those 'traitors' puppets. When i present to you telegrams and images, population counts and information from your own archives, you label them fabricated, unworthy, garbage. Every single evidence we point to you is apparently fake. How the hell do you want me to argue with a person like you? It's a waste of time, you're worthless.

[Arzive]

Your killings in Van are absurd. The majority population of Van (over 50%) was Armenian, and the next was Kurdish. I highly doubt that in 1915, almost half a million muslims even lived in Van, let alone killed. That's how many people live in Bitlis TODAY. That would make Van a more populated city back then than both Van and Bitlis are today. That's extremely unlikely, what I like to call propaganda.

[Arzive]

You statements are simply based on your personal pride. You take the Turkish side because you're Turkish, not because you're looking for the truth. I don't deny that Ottomans felt backstabbed, I would too, if I were them. I don't deny that Armenians killed some Turks in the process, it's only natural given the circumstances. I forget my nationality, look at both sides, and make a conclusion (genocide). You on the other hand just looks at your side, and then blame us for being one sided.

[Arzive]

You're wrong, they didn't live in total peace. Sure, they DID live better than under other muslim empires, but not like you say. Our rights were always suppressed. We had no right to go to court unless we were muslims, meaning we were always judged wrong. Christian girls would be kidnapped and raped by a criminal, and he wouldn't be guilty because he raped an infidel (an example out of many). Your problem is that you want people to believe Ottoman and Turks were angels, which they were not.

[Arzive]

Those behind the scenes lobbying efforts are what you wish was happening. The reality is the opposite. Turkey is paying millions every year to keep mouths shut (I heard this statement numerous times on Turkish TV debates). What you just said is simply because you have nothing left to say. If you don't believe me about the court-martial of 1919, go check your archives. Your government is denying the eligibility of their own court. Would you trust a country that does that?

[FuLLiTurk]

Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed

[FuLLiTurk]

Col. Wooley, British officer, estimated the Armenians had killed 300,000-400,000 Muslims in Van and Bitlis alone. These and other cities are in the east, not the Balkans. Along with the mass killings, Armenians engaged in wholesale rape, often including very young girls, and torture. These are documented by friends of Armenians in contrast to Turkish crimes documented by hearsay. As for those found guilty in the 1919 mock trials by a puppet gov't: the British themselves rejected these findings.