Refutation of Mohammed2k8 part 4 (allegation 4)

Allegation: Don't use hadiths of shabas narrating what they saw. Also foolish rebuttal that "Bukhari and Muslim were liars".

Evidences:

Shahih Al Bukhari Book 1 Vol 1 Hadith 604.

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[bo3ali0000]

duude why are u even trying to talk he wiped the floor on u and bemybro i suggest u give up loooool

[ayasalman]

@aim786 they want to act bigger in knowledge than other ppl when they are not, u cant just put on an imama and call urself a moulana. Only God knows what those "scholars" where thinking in that view..just saying somethin gout of of their frustration to fit their needs. There is no such surahs no where there ever such surahs of wilayah and noorayn. Well im not debating u..i was jsut commenting.

[ayasalman]

@aim786 out of 1,000,000 Shias 10 might think its not complete and those are the less knowledgable ones. Shias believe the Qur'an is complete only a few bad apples "who u claim would be shia" say its incomplete but in fact does not represent Shia Islam so they r not Shia so in fact they dont represent "shias believe the quran is incomplete" cuz theya re nto shia

[ayasalman]

@aim786 Ali (as) as a hafiz of the Qur'an himself never said the Qur'an is incomplete so i dont know where ppl get that from it has nothing to do with anything as the Qur'an was memorized as u urself said.

[ayasalman]

@aim786 i dont "run around" in conversations..i planing state the facts, opinions, comments,etc. and i move on. Those "scholars" are not "scholars" like i said they are not even Shia or Muslim. Don't mix up who u think is prominate or famous in ur view when in fact they are not famous or prominant in our view. What famous "shia" scholar u r talking about? talking about Qur'an being memorized why would bukhari even SUGGEST that the Propeht forgot verses, he's suppose to be the 1st hafiz

[aim786]

@ayasalman Like I said I am glad you don't believe that. But that does not refute the fact that their are Shia'a scholars who are high ranking that know more then you or me about Shia'a doctrines, and they hold this belief. I mean could even scan the pages of the so called "so wilayah and surah noorayn" that they believe are missing from the Quran and show you. With regards to one more thing. I am sorry if you find this offensive or rude but debates bring tough questions and tough responses.

[aim786]

@ayasalman Listen I don't have to say to "some shia'as" because we are talking about general comments. I could say the Zaidyya believe the Quran is complete, but I could not say the "shia'a believe it is complete" because that simply not true. I am glad you think the Quran is complete. That is a good sign that you don't buy into all the fabrications about this issue. Again about the goat, The Quran was ALREADY completely revealed and as we all know the Huffaz of the quran know it by heart.

[aim786]

@ayasalman I did not know you were female, but any who you are not getting the point. The point is that there shia'as who believe that the quran is not complete. So nobody can say in general "shia'a believe the Quran is complete. Let me give you an example to put things into perspective. If I said Americans believe alcohol is bad. This is a false statement because NOT all Americans believe it is bad. OF course there are those who do but its not ALL so you can not use the general terms.

[aim786]

@ayasalman You are running around! You are running from the FACT that certain shia'a scholars don't believe the Quran is complete. Some of them are amongst the most prominent . If I were to give you a link of a famous shia'a scholar saying the Quran is not complete, will you cal him a kafir? If you do, then only then will I believe you. Even that hadith about a goat eating pages, it has nothing to do because the Quran was memorized! It is an ORAL tradition.We do not depend on them!

[ayasalman]

@aim786 You know its HARAM to accuse somebody of something or doing something that they didnt do. I never ran nor am i beating around the bush..i simply posted a comment and ur being all "ahhh" about it. Those like is aid that believe the Qur'an is incomplete are NOT SHIAS' nor are they MUSLIMS. I can say Shia's believe the Qur'an is complete. I doubt that..like i mentioend to u there are hadiths that say pages of the Qur'an where ate by a goat, etc. etc.