The Ladder of Divine Ascent Part 3: Prayer Rops

Vladika Lazar continues his discussion of the use of the Prayer Rope and the prayer for the guarding of the minf

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[neildingman]

I've been reading Temple Grandin's book "Animals in Translation." She has autism and thinks only in pictures mentally. How would someone with this ability be able to pray the Jesus Prayer mentally?

[allsaintsmonastery]

@neildingman By doing something that normally we would avoid: picturing Jesus Christ with his hand outstretched to her.

[lokaksema]

After a life of fasting and struggle, most Holy Fathers referred to themselves as the worst sinners of all. Self-imposed humility? I don't think so. Perhaps it's just their understanding of how little they actually achieved.

So, at the end of the day, you can only hope for forgiveness. So, perhaps, Martin Luther was right. Good deeds and morality not as act of struggle but as act of gratitude. My debts have been erased, so it's my duty to forgive, too.

[allsaintsmonastery]

Apostle Paul stakes out the claim to be the chief of sinners, so perhaps his example is simply being followed. Self-imposed humility may be quite important to some in order to keep from falling into pride. Much of that is rhetorical and part of the individual's struggle. Everything is accomplished by Grace, but there is something missing in your understanding, and that is the struggle with one's own internal suffering. That is beyond your capacity to judge. Not everyone has equal suffering.

[allsaintsmonastery]

Thank you to Iokaksema for the suggestion to talk about spiritual struggle in relation to divine grace. This will entail examining Apostle Paul's use of the word "energy" in his epistle (27 times), and the concept of synergy and as Paul says, "working out our salvation with fear and trembling." We will take up this suggestion shortly and try to discuss it in as full a manner as possible in a series of broadcast, as we only have 8-9 minutes each time.

[christiangirma]

Surprised, I was not thinking orther people than ethiopian orthodox use this. Orthodoxes is very conservant to the early tradition of the chuch. God bless all orthodoxes.

[peekaboots01]

This is beautiful. The Rosary works the same way.

[bitterice]

Very clear and helpful.

God bless you !

[constantina303]

Thank you so much for your very clear explanation of the prayer rope. Thank you!

[Jenawahrheit]

@lokaksema What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.

[Jenawahrheit]

@lokaksema, remember the lamp of the desert - one must possess humility before the throne. The final palace is perilous without humilty and peace.

[CerberusvonOz]

Mpegleri sto xeri & komposkoini sto podi!!!