Garratts vs 1960's Diesel Electric Locos on 1 in 40 Bank

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Which made a better go of 1 in 40 banks?
The 1950's Double Garratts with 1000 tons zinc concentrate train or the Quadruple 1960' s vintage D E hauled Mandilla starch train approximately 2000 tonnes ?
Garrett specification-
http://users.powernet.co.uk/hamilton/dimensions.html
NSWGR - AD60 4-8-4+4-8-4 standard gauge
Cylinders inches 19.25x26
Coupled Wheel 4' 7"
Boiler Pressure 200 psi
Traction Effort, 75%% max BP 52700




Weight Tons 260
Water Gallons 9350
Coal 14 tons
See-
http://users.powernet.co.uk/hamilton/dimensions.html
Ballast train at Mortale Station. August, 2008.
Starch Train and Ballast train taken with Sony Handycam HC 96 in mid. 2008.

Thanks Bilbin for video clips of Garretts-
http://belbinvideo.com/DVDtitles.htm

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[ernietube1]

@SteffanLlwyd

The AD60s could run on most lines in NSW. They really did a stirling service until 48 class DE took over.

I did see some AD60 operations on the Enfield to Clyde section of good track in late 1950s.

[SteffanLlwyd]

Fascinating comparisons. Thanks. I read some quite snotty comments about about Oz Garratts. But to me they look fantastic and well up to the job!

[ernietube1]

In the end of their useful service, they were used on coal trains to Wangi Wangi poer station.

See

Garretts- Double AD 60 Class with Coal Trains near Newcastle. Quad steam at Zig Zag

youtube.com/watch?v=T6gEjZYFs0­M

I never saw the steam operation on the Zig Zag but saw the late afternoon 57 heavy goods from Lithgow passing through Auburn station

[GMCobh]

I find Garretts to be fascinating locomotives; their outline looks quite different from Mallets or Meyer locos. That's a very interesting documentary about them.

Thanks for the technical info on them, also.

[ernietube1]

@GMCobh

My other video based on Belbin's movie may interest you-

Garretts- Double AD 60 Class with Coal Trains near Newcastle. Quad steam at Zig Zag

/watch?v=T6gEjZYFs0M

Thanks for comment

[PROFLOP1]

@tpvalley

Do you mean these noisy monsters? You can FEEL them going through !

They never seem to wear out these or other heavy DE of the 1970s. These were rated at 3300 HP.

Three C class Hauling Coal Train up Sutherland Bank, Illawarra Line, Sydney. In HD

watch?v=wJ3Sjn2YBEg&feature=ch­annel_video_title

Thanks for comments.

ernie

Sorry change in identity.

erniepond1

[tpvalley]

@erniepond1

were allowed 20 tons per axle and the most powerful is about 3000hp I think.

I like the older diesels like the crossley powered X class is it, think thats Oz could be NZ excuse my ignorance.

[erniepond1]

@tpvalley

In AUSTRALIA,the size ofd diesels are dictated by axle weight limitations. In NSW, out biggest DE is the 92 class, weighing some 140 t. It is the biggest loco with an output of some 3370 kW or 4500 HP.

Because of its large size, it is restricted to coal haulage in the Hunter Valley but I did see some being used at Pot Kembla

[tpvalley]

over here in uk the diesels had higher engine power but often lower drawbar power, but diesels are made to run flat out all the time, it more efficient for a diesel loco, but steam trains have pull in reserve and theres no motores to flash over!

[Zappyguy111]

8:20 Saw the length of carriage being pulled by that one engine and the magical 4 lettered 's' word popped into my head.

[erniepond1]

@SteffanLlwyd

Thanks for watching .

What about

Coupling a Double Farlie (Earl of Merioneth) at Ffestinog

.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4Km8DeP­4o

Must be fascinating to watch.

[SteffanLlwyd]

@ernietube1 Awesome. I wish we'd had large wheeled passenger garretts in the UK or maybe Kitson-Meyers.