Subaru Outback beats Ford Kuga and Volvo XC 60 amongst others on wet grass slope

A good demo of how a Subaru Outback's AWD system is far superior to the Haldex on the Ford Kuga and Volvo XC 60. Very wet slippery grass slope, with a race to the top!
On this surface the Haldex system fails because it requires front wheel slip before it engages the rear wheels, this sudden engagement then causes the rear wheels to slip = No traction!
Proof of superior engineering and technology, which makes a Subaru out class the opposition.

Category:

Autos & Vehicles

Tags:

• Subaru
• race
• wet grass slope
• AWD
• 4WD
• Ford Kuga
• Volvo XC60
• Four-wheel Drive
• Mud
• Off Road
• 4x4
• Outback
• Off road test
• Off road driving
• Grange Farm
• Offroad
• Stuck
• wheel spin

[JasonHSharpe]

The foreign video of the Volvo is actually showing excessive wheel spin, often with only two wheels spinning! Not a great advert for it's off road capability!

[JasonHSharpe]

Sorry my auto spell check has substituted the word NO for NOT on the previous post! Lol

[JasonHSharpe]

...continued from the last posting- the Haldex system falls down by the fact that the front wheels must slip before the rear wheels are engaged. In these and similar tricky conditions this makes all the difference of succeeding or failing to get you home and dry! There is not doubt that the Volvo and Kuga are good cars, but when the going gets difficult they are not match for the Symetrical All Wheel Drive Subaru system.

[JasonHSharpe]

Brandis2000, the reason the Subaru STI was slower than some of the others is it's wide low profile performance tyres as you have pointed out yourself. You should really put the Outback or Forester against the XC60 to be fair as these are built for a similar purpose.

The vehicles on the video are all 4 wheel drive with standard road tyres, so it still shows the disadvantages of the Haldex system to a true symmetrical all wheel drive system. As I stated in the description, the Haldex falls down

[JasonHSharpe]

They're all 4wd and Autos and on the standard road tyres.

[outrigger777]

@Pagelos You are exactly right about your Haldex descriptions. There are numerous youtube videos of XC60s--as well as XC90s & XC70s--with their AWDs performing in a very impressive manner--including Haldex 3 versions. Subaru partisans just seem to ignore this evidence. I won't dis Subaru's excellent AWD system, but I do know of about 4 videos showing stuck Subarus in what looks to be very unchallenging conditions, and you wonder what's wrong. See the Volvo AWD videos of osan4x4mag.

[Pagelos]

You statement about the front wheels needing to spin before real wheels engage is wrong. That is true for Haldex generation 2 and partly on the generation 3 system, but the generation 4 system that is found in the xc60 builds up hydraulic pressure without wheelspin. It can deliver up to 90% of all power to a single wheel with the new LSC combined width Haldex eLSD. Grass should not be a problem, it's probably the tires.

[outrigger777]

Hey guys, just look to the right About the 3rd video down in the Russian cyrilic alphabet. It shows a Volvo xc60 doing 10 times better than this. Near the start of the video and near the end of the video are off-road performances by the xc60 that any Subaru owner would be proud of.

[brandis2000]

And about the HALDEX..german journal AUTO MOTOR SPORT 2/2011 did compare on a 720meter SNOW track very different 4x4 cars like AUDI RS5, SUBARU Impreza WRX STI, BMW X3, PORSCHE CAYENNE, RANGE ROVER TDV8, VOLVO V60 D5 AWD... and more. Guess who had the best time on the track...... VOLVO V60 with 68,4 sek. then Porsche 68,8 sec. Subaru 76,0 sec. !!! Why ?? Volvo has 215/50 R17h tires Pirelli Sott 2, Subaru had 245/40R18V Goodyear UG per. WRONG TIRES AND ALL THE POWER and 4x4 is HELPLESS!!

[brandis2000]

Hello nice video. Every system has his backdrafts... a comparison is allways difficult. To be fair all this cars should have the same tires... the best 4x4 system doesnt help if you dont have friction! So its allways a combination of tires , 4x4 system AND DRIVER!

[bombinoibrahim]

@omegarelojes i do to and its great but i guess because it has too much power than the others it didnt take off or simply its not AWD