11. There's no evidence either way

When forced to admit that there's no evidence for the existence of any god, Christians sometimes like to pretend that believing in a god is still reasonable because there's no evidence that any god doesn't exist either.

However, this is false, because there's no such thing as evidence of non-existence. "No evidence either way" is the same as "no evidence" in which case, there's simply no reason to believe.

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[cyphonyx]

One could say that there is evidence for the nonexistence of certain things. At the very least, one could claim that impossible things, which by definition cannot be, must not exist. The claim "square circles do not exist" is true. Once you define both "square" and "circle" you see that they are mutually exclusive. Likewise, specific gods can be proven to be impossible while vague gods cannot. In fact, its mostly just the impotent and vague deistic conceptions of god seem to be immune to this.

[Not1delusion]

@cyphonyx. It's a point a lot of people raise, and I half-agree. Some things are logically self-contradictory, so they can't exist. But that's not quite the same concept as empirical evidence of non-existence. And the point remains that there are plenty of things that aren't logically self-contradictory but are also non-existent.

Maybe it's worth another video.

[SunsetNap]

It actually quite easy to find the origins of spiderman and smurfs.They are literally created to be fictional characters.This is a great example of "I know their not real (as an actual physical being) because of presence of evidence."

[Not1delusion]

@SunsetNap . Not really. For example, even if a sci-fi writer in the 19th century invented black holes as fictional things looooong before they were discovered, it doesn't mean they didn't exist. Just that the writer didn't know they existed.

Similarly, Spider-man could be real. But maybe the guy who thinks he invented Spider-man simply wasn't aware that he was real.

[brno32]

@brno32 origins* instead of originals

[brno32]

I myself am an atheist, but I can understand people's belief. The mysterious originals of the bible and most likely misinterpreted "miracles" all seem to push people towards their beliefs. Science has still left a lot unexplained and while I don't think it should just be assumed the only answer is something spiritual it is understandable how people can turn to this answer, such as when they describe the presence of god or whatever. Combined with emotions and all that I can see why people believe

[skaloon]

@metalsusa1

you can't claim that there is no god. all you can do is claim that there are no evidence for god. if you claim that there is no god - it means you have faith that there is no god, which puts you in the same category with religious people

[StygianDysnomia]

@cyphonyx "specific gods can be proven to be impossible while vague gods cannot. In fact, its mostly just the impotent and vague deistic conceptions of god seem to be immune to this." --Actually, if we allow God = Incorporeal mind, then he can be proven to be impossible to exist. For if Cartesian Dualism is false, the string all such Gods hang on is sliced.

Mind is to brain as digestion is to stomach. So far, the evidence isn't looking so good for dualism...

[metalsusa1]

THERE IS NO GOD YOU MORONS. If you think there is your having a psychological break from reality. In order for this deities book to be accurate you must deny Evolution, Cosmology, Genetics, Geology, Anthropology, all dating methods, the fossil record, D.N.A.sequence testing, Geological distribution of planets and animals.

Either thousands of dedicated scientists are wrong or there's a huge multi generational cover up to lie about the evidence. Is that what you believe? Really? Wake up.

[TheAnubisDrake]

@SkyHeavenMaranatha A little less like a Chines movie style monk please.

[SkyHeavenMaranatha]

@TheAnubisDrake in "YOUR (time)" it is for you to DISCERN through choice of Free will before you are actualized in "YOUR choice" outside of time.

[TheAnubisDrake]

@SkyHeavenMaranatha In what way? You got me curious.

[craigbondy1]

@Not1delusion While your argument is correct, I would have to agree with SunsetNap, in that we know for sure, that both Spider-man, and the Smurfs, are fictional creatures designed by man. Whether they may actually exist is irrelevant. Mythical creatures such as fairy's, God's, UFO's and Bigfoot sort of fall into another category (at least some people claim that they have seen such things, and there is actually some none conclusive evidence to support the stories.)