@TakumProti True, but you're preaching to the converted here. The biggest problem is getting the message out there and getting people to understand and believe.
@kjean1965 These aren't the Gods of Olympus that we're dealing with, they aren't unstoppable, and they know it. That's why they ensure that we're decieved and distracted.
@TakumProti [smiling] I'm just clarifying that you know exactly what you're up against. It's surprising just how ignorant the vast majority are in the US, how what we've just discussed would be classed as unpatriotic. But I'd class it as the patriotic duty of every citizen to claim back what's rightfully theirs.
@kjean1965 I may not have any overall solution to this, but don't sit there and act like we're inevitably doomed. You give these people too much credit and treat them like they're gods when they're as mortal as the rest of us and far from invincible. What I do know is that it's going to take an act of revolution and reform to take back our republic. When the people band together in order take what's theirs, they will win. But the first thing to do is quit acting like there's nothing you can do.
@TakumProti and just how do you plan on taking it back? Since 9/11, people manipulated by fear, panic and ignorance have allowed the Govt to slowly erode civil liberties; readily buying the 'if you're doing nothing wrong you've nothing to fear' line with regard to surveillance and intrusion. Now with the requirement for all email/internet and telephone records to be kept, a further infringement making us increasingly a population under surveillance.
@kjean1965 Certainly not with that negative and defeatist attitude. And while these puppetmasters are real, our democracy is still not a mirage, it's as real as the people stealing it from us. It's not an illusion at all, it's being taken from us and we have to take it back.
@TakumProti Nothing will change, it's emdemic to politics, the destiny of generations dictated by those with only selfish interests at heart. It matters not who's in power because the 'puppet masters' remain the same.
That's what I'm referring to when I say 'a mirage' because in reality that's what it is, an illusion; an illusion created by the ruling elite!
@kjean1965 But the President and Congress are and they're the people that I'm referring to as being bought and paid for by powerful special interests such as Goldman Sachs and the Saudi Royal family.
@TakumProti the positions I'm talking about, within the Presidents close circle, examples like Timothy Geithner, Secretary of Treasury, who spent 5yrs as President of The Federal Reserve. These positions are not up before public scrutiny, candidates are not democratically elected in.
As for the 'powerful individuals' comment, I'm referring to those not in politics but in the background pulling the strings.
3:41 - 3:50 sums up the entire video.
whyeff21 1 day ago
@TakumProti True, but you're preaching to the converted here. The biggest problem is getting the message out there and getting people to understand and believe.
kjean1965 4 days ago
@kjean1965 These aren't the Gods of Olympus that we're dealing with, they aren't unstoppable, and they know it. That's why they ensure that we're decieved and distracted.
TakumProti 4 days ago
@TakumProti [smiling] I'm just clarifying that you know exactly what you're up against. It's surprising just how ignorant the vast majority are in the US, how what we've just discussed would be classed as unpatriotic. But I'd class it as the patriotic duty of every citizen to claim back what's rightfully theirs.
kjean1965 4 days ago
@kjean1965 I may not have any overall solution to this, but don't sit there and act like we're inevitably doomed. You give these people too much credit and treat them like they're gods when they're as mortal as the rest of us and far from invincible. What I do know is that it's going to take an act of revolution and reform to take back our republic. When the people band together in order take what's theirs, they will win. But the first thing to do is quit acting like there's nothing you can do.
TakumProti 5 days ago
@TakumProti and just how do you plan on taking it back? Since 9/11, people manipulated by fear, panic and ignorance have allowed the Govt to slowly erode civil liberties; readily buying the 'if you're doing nothing wrong you've nothing to fear' line with regard to surveillance and intrusion. Now with the requirement for all email/internet and telephone records to be kept, a further infringement making us increasingly a population under surveillance.
Just what are your plans!
kjean1965 5 days ago
@kjean1965 Certainly not with that negative and defeatist attitude. And while these puppetmasters are real, our democracy is still not a mirage, it's as real as the people stealing it from us. It's not an illusion at all, it's being taken from us and we have to take it back.
TakumProti 5 days ago
@TakumProti Nothing will change, it's emdemic to politics, the destiny of generations dictated by those with only selfish interests at heart. It matters not who's in power because the 'puppet masters' remain the same.
That's what I'm referring to when I say 'a mirage' because in reality that's what it is, an illusion; an illusion created by the ruling elite!
kjean1965 5 days ago
@kjean1965 But the President and Congress are and they're the people that I'm referring to as being bought and paid for by powerful special interests such as Goldman Sachs and the Saudi Royal family.
TakumProti 5 days ago
@TakumProti the positions I'm talking about, within the Presidents close circle, examples like Timothy Geithner, Secretary of Treasury, who spent 5yrs as President of The Federal Reserve. These positions are not up before public scrutiny, candidates are not democratically elected in.
As for the 'powerful individuals' comment, I'm referring to those not in politics but in the background pulling the strings.
kjean1965 5 days ago