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Miselaineous and I met up to discuss pertinent issues in the lives of determinists, namely psychic gyspies and being startled, and whether or not I brought my camera.

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  • does she have a account?

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  • She doesn't actually have access to my account.

    But, thanks for including my ramblings in your playlist.

  • LOL, yeah Gary, I apologize for that. I was suprised when Elaine responded to my first comment. As you say, this is your channel. (Hmmmm, must be a close relationship for her to have access to your account.) Anyway, I think we finished up the conversation via personal message. I hope she watches the videos I recommended. I was just trying to help her get over the headaches when she thinks about the incident. Say, did you notice I have a couple of your vids in my FreeWill Playlist? Naturalism Org

  • Yikes, unseen. This is my channel, btw. So, if you wanna explain to ME why you are writing a novel in my comments section, I'm all ears.

  • I sent you a personal message before my post as to why I'm making my comments. I didn't realize you would read my comment before you got the personal message. Sorry about that. I know you don't believe in ghost, gods, pink unicorns, or psychic powers--well maybe pink unicorns, but you are even a bit skeptical about their existance. Besides, the "psychic" was a professional at her job. Psychics still astonish many people with their illusions. She did have inside info or she was good at reading U.

  • For crying out loud, unseenstrings, why do you keep trying to convince me she wasn't psychic? I never said she WAS, unless I was joking around or something. Not everything in every youtube video should be taken literally. The WHOLE POINT (besides just being silly in the car, driving around Maryland with Gary) was that she COULD NOT have known some of the thing she said, spying or not. So in a sense, yes, it's the equivalent of your dog talking to you about God. It astounded me.

  • Personally, if I had my dogs start talking to me and tell me they had a message to me from God, I would listen but question my sanity. We as naturalists don't deny sound evidence. We deny that the human is unerring and perfectly truthful. The "psychic," because of her profession could have learned things about you while giving readings. And if her dwelling joined yours, chatting with your visitors and overhearing conversations is highly likely. I don't deny she was skilled but she wasn't psychic

  • unseenstrings - I outright reject the "paranormal" in case there is still any question in your mind!

  • When we look back on human history and observe "primitive" societies, we can see that humans have a tendency of saying goddidit or it was magic for phenomena that they could not and can not explain in any other way. However, the more we learn the more we come to realize such explanations are illusions. You seem aware of this tendency and seem to be on guard to prevent yourself from falling into the same trap as naive "savages" and our ignorant ancestors. One is better off to doubt the paranormal

  • But you see... I sound amazed because I AM amazed. I do not believe in psychic ability, yet I cannot explain this woman. She never would have seen the brown haired guy, and she would not have known that the blonde haired buy was hurt on his LEFT SIDE, for instance. I didn't even know that until I asked him. She kept insisting about the red car. I didn't even know about that either. Stuff like that... So all these years I have just set this aside as a fluke.

  • Correction: miselaineeous (two Es)

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