Smokers money

Hamish Champ from The Publican is blaming the smokers for the damaged pub trade. But by doing so, he's admitting that pubs depend on smoking customers, and it is the smoking ban that is killing off the trade.

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[davealton999]

Was the smoking ban something the people actually wanted, or was it another case of the UK government telling us what we want, while ignoring what we actually want.

[HairyChestnuts]

Of course it wasn't wanted by those that counted, the property owners and their customers. If they had wanted smoke free venues they would made their property smoke free regardless of legislation. A few tried, but immediately lost customers and changed their minds. Market demand should govern business, not a minority of selfish bigots.

[davealton999]

"Non smokers tend to be non drinkers" Where did you get that from. About 23% of the population smoke, and about 85% drink.

[HairyChestnuts]

The term "Drinker" is the governments definition of big drinker. When all the smokers were driven from the pubs, the pubs lost their biggest spenders.

[HairyChestnuts]

70% of pubs regular trade were smokers. No wonder we've now lost 6000 pubs since the UK ban.

[mkpdavies]

Spot on as always.

I don't smoke at all, but I'm not a fascist who expects my preferences in other people's private establishments.

[mickey22011]

I'm pissed off being patronised by anti smokers 1st telling me the ban was ok because I could go outside in the rain or freezing cold. Then when going outside I get told to move away from the premises (although cars are still allowed) which I obviously have to ignore, but insulting just the same. One answer I would have is not wasting time debating anti smokers lies, with anti smokers, but to simply disobey the ban, but that won't happen.

[SickOfNannyState]

yet another great video full of truth. I too would spend, spend, spend in a pub IF I could enjoy both smoking and drinking indoors comfortably. The price of drinks doesn't come into it if you're having a whale of a time with your friends. Drinking at home just doesn't have the same ambience

[antsinyerpants]

Before the ban my friends and I would meet at my house and then take ourselves out for a jolly at the local and usually on to a club, now we meet at mine and stay there. My front room turns into a pub for the evening because we refuse to be treated like lepers whilst trying to enjoy a night out.

Ammend the ban and we will return to the pub, we still love our Saturday, we make the best of it, cheap booze and smoking in comfort, and warmth, but its not the same as it used to be. Its really not.

[mervintoot]

Since the ban came in my drinking and smoking has increased in fact Im getting to be quite a fat git now. Before the ban I was always walking to & from pubs so ironically I was exercising more and, best of all, me and my mates had a decent social life.

So as I get more fat and depressed it makes me need to smoke even more. Well done Labour; the party that wont listen, wont compromise, wont ever admit theyve made a mistake.

A pub is not an office, not a gym, not a government building.

[xyzto1]

When those antis, that like a drink of alcohol, get offered a patch, pill, potion or lotion, instead of their normal tipple, then sent outside to drink it, then maybe they too will understand. After they have been "denormalised" of Course

[xyzto1]

Well said hairy, I too am fussy who gets my money "smokers money"

I am sorry to the publicans who are caught in the middle, of this spiteful law, that has cost this Country millions to try and "denormalise it's people.

I read this yesterday sort of link below( a lot of reading) but if Hamish thinks it is just the smokers to worry about, he needs to think again -

mandyv freedom2choose info for smokers and non-smokers alike fighting for choice and TRUTH