MWC NGBC: Dark Geese vs. Fenix87

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[ShinDarkGeese]

Hmmm jumping 2a beatd Anti Air Craft with Hanzo....I thought about that but never tested it. Yeah Tung and Athena don't have range. That is very true... Athena can do qcb+p vs. Bigs Anti Air twirl, but she has to see it coming...

In the US Big is better than Hotaru, he's easier to use and get results with. Hotaru takes more effort.

[ShinDarkGeese]

What do you all use to jump in on BIg due to his Twirl attack (B+D) being SOOOO good..

Like Big counters Tung and Athena perfectly if he knows the matchup well..its hard for either Tung or Athena to do much or get in on him..

[ShinDarkGeese]

Is it good Big and Kim are ruling in the US? Not really because it turns people off on the game. They think you have to have Big-Kim to win tournaments here...and Big-Kim rule the tournaments here pretty much..

I remember Tokido not once played Big..he didnt even at EVO World...Iori, Marco, Mars People, I think he played those characters.

[ShinDarkGeese]

The Triad has pretty much mastered Hotaru but once again when they play someone like me or Ultimate Faust they put Big first..because to us Big is top tier because he has the LEAST bad matchups..hes Tungs worst matchup...he coutners Tung COMPLETELY. I have yet to see a Hotaru-Kim team in the USA..though after SBO 06 there were more experimenting with it due to Keeroc winning.

[ShinDarkGeese]

In North America we are going to Team tournaments because of the prevalence of Big-Kim at the time though the players in North Carolina have pretty much tapped out Hotaru. SieClayon plays Big-Hotaru exclusively.

A problem Hotaru has is vs. people with dive kicks. She doesnt have an instant anti air so she has problems vs. Tung and Mudman! Like Marco Tung vs. Marco is a hard matchup for Marco.

[ShinDarkGeese]

Very nice information.. in US tournaments here Big-Kim dominate everything. We have been watching some of you all's recent vids and have noticed the drop of Big-Kim in the vids..less people are playing Big-Kim it seems.

Yeah Bigs flying tool can be punished greatly esp. by Tung and others as well. I remember in SBO you beat Mago's Big-Kim team and he made top 4 no? I also remember Keeroc winning with Hotaru-Kim.

[fujiharakun]

Stiffening of landing of Hanzo of 2A is the same as a usual jump.

It takes on Big by the warp at a high position BorD, and antiaircraft is invited and crushed.

If it is made to down, the other party can control with the tool that easily can attack getting up and parts and flies because it doesn't have the invincibility technique.

Besides, the good chance to win is seen if it brings it in to the shape that doesn't become it in case of the attack from the Big side by destroying 2A of Big.

[fujiharakun]

Neither Tung nor atena are excellent on the reach side.

Absolute antiaircraft and the restraint exist in Big.

Especially, the mistake is not found in fighting hard at the first stage.

I vsBig.

Hanzo ... Antiaircraft is destroyed by jump 2A.

Iori ... It exchanges blows by the restraint, and it pushes it into an

individual technique in short distance C from TS.

Another ..Fuma.. ... It doesn't fly at all, and the part of which the other

party comes to deprive of damage is beaten.

[fujiharakun]

Is Big better than hotaru in the translation of main current in the United States?

However, I think that the form is correct.

Hotaru makes the best use of all the performances.

(cooperation etc. that continue from evasion and jump attack by a throw of example and BL version and backing steps)

It starts and the strongest correspondence power is gained.

The understanding of each frame etc. become important there.

The reach situation cannot be said that it is skilled because it is short.

[fujiharakun]

Our opinion becomes it so.

Kim ... Even the beginner acquires it easily, and it is and strengthens further then if

a senior technology is applied.

Big ... Even the beginner is hey ..use... However, there are a lot of distances not good,

and the element that can be covered by the technology is few.

Hotaru ... It uses for the beginner and is painful. However, it is possible to correspond to all

if an efficient side is understood and mastered.

[fujiharakun]

Are it good for Big and Kim to rule in the United States?

Naturally, this is what Japan was able to mean before.

Vs Big was researched any more though it was large that strength

named Tikido did not have the Big user.

We make the weak point of Big.

･Destruction of 2A first of all.

･Distance line

･Point that doesn't have invincibility technique

･"2D" big it

[fujiharakun]

I'm sorry. It fights hard against the translation.

Is the Hotaru Kim handled to North America and OK?

The part etc. of TungvsMarco fight hard against the translation, too.

Strength of Hotaru is in an evasion means that is more excellent than the attack

when landing by two patterns and anyone.

For instance, bac step →

input in the air

(This performance is only a firefly. Another has the ground stay time it is sure to become a judgment in the air. )