WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH - WORLD'S MOST INFAMOUS CALVINISTS (1 of 8)

God loves you for you. "What Love really means" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgGUKWiw7Wk
This is a TV documentary written and presented by the BBC's Louis Theroux called "The Most Hated Family in America" about the Phelps family, at the heart of the Westboro Baptist Church.

Isaiah 8:20  To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Fred Waldron Phelps, Sr. (born November 13, 1929) is an American pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), an independent Baptist church based in Topeka, Kansas. His church is monitored as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center. He is a disbarred lawyer, founder of the Phelps Chartered law firm and previous candidate for political office and was a civil rights activist in Kansas. He and his daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, are banned from entering the United Kingdom. He and his family are notorious for their anti-gay protests, claiming that most natural disasters and terrorist attacks are God's punishment for a society that tolerates homosexuality.

Phelps says he is an old school Baptist, and holds to all five points of Calvinism. Phelps particularly highlights John Calvin's doctrine of unconditional election, the belief that God has elected certain people for salvation before birth, and limited atonement, the belief that Christ only died for the elect, and condemns those who believe otherwise.

Phelps views Arminianism (particularly the views of the Methodist theologian William Munsey) as a "worse blasphemy and heresy than that heard in all filthy Saturday night fag bars in the aggregate in the world." In addition to John Calvin, Phelps admires Martin Luther, Bob Jones, Sr., John Gill, and has stated that "what this country needs is 50 Jonathan Edwardses turned loose in it." Fred Phelps particularly holds to equal ultimacy, believing that "God Almighty makes some willing and he leads others into sin," although Phelps denies being a hyper-Calvinist, even though he is.

Phelps is against common practices like Sunday school meetings, Bible colleges and seminaries, and multi-denominational crusades, although he attended Bob Jones University and worked with Billy Graham in his Los Angeles Crusade. Phelps accused Graham of changing his views on a literal Hell and salvation outside of Jesus Christ. Billy Graham has always taught the same gospel for 60 years. Anyone is free to visit Graham's website to check for themselves http://www.bgea.org Phelps considers Graham the greatest false prophet since Balaam, and also condemns large church leaders such as Jerry Falwell, in addition to all current Catholics. Most Calvinists oppose Billy Graham.

Other Calvinists, such as James White, do not acknowledge Phelps. Even though James is a 5 point Calvinist. White claims God ordains everything, even child molestation and rape. Calvinists call this doctrine 'determinism', which means we have no freewill and that God determines everything that occurs, even the HOLOCAUST.
Determinism - The doctrine that all acts of the will and events in time are decreed & ordained by God.
John Wesley called Calvinism blasphemy and rightfully so.

Calvinism is extremely anti-semitic. It makes no sense for Calvinists to say they love Israel or the Jews, yet buy into a belief system that maintains God ordained 6 million Jews to be slaughtered. Dave Hunt gave the perfect title to his book about Calvinism.... " What Love is This?" There is no love or salvation to be found in Calvinism (Reformed Theology).

The Calvinist who preaches, teaches and witnesses the Gospel is in reality lying to people who hear him and he's doing so in Jesus' name. It is a lie to tell a man that if he will believe in Jesus Christ that he shall be saved (Romans 10:9-10) while, at the same time, believing and teaching God has already done the choosing. (cont. Part 7)

Calvinist preachers:
James White, John MacArthur, John Piper, Paul Washer, and Matt Slick who owns http://www.CARM.org

1 Timothy 4:1 ¶Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Peter 2:1 ¶But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

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[MsMandaPanda101]

Someone should take the young kids away from them.

[coxtrox]

this takes trolling to a new high...

[HellBentBekka]

those poor poor kids. it's all hate hate hate it makes me scared how can they be so wrong? he tried explaining but she was so determined not to listen! have they lost their grip entirely of logic? how can they twist everything and believe it with such conviction?

[maxxx6900]

3:55 "..this is Gabriel..." she hates gay people and she named her son Gaybriel???

hahahahahahahaha

[imasuper0308]

@Gymnastics917 Yes and Jesus Christ himself was hated so much they put him on a cross and murdered him.  Does that somehow make it right? The message of the WBC is pretty darn accurate. Their manner in doing it is different but the hate they receive back is purely evil. All the threats and attacks and lawsuits and charges are freaking evil. They have a very basic Christian message and have every right to share it.

[imasuper0308]

@MyBarbaricYAWP22 God hates homosexuality and wickedness. So should you. How is that wrong for them to share something that is true like that? We all have different personalities and purposes. How can you attack someone for doing what they truly believe when their message is actually quite true? No their church isn't the truth church of God but their message is pretty accurate. They also tell it in a cleaver way that brings quite a bit of attention to it. People can choose to see it 4 good

[MyBarbaricYAWP22]

@imasuper0308 Spewing the "hatred of God"? Picketing at funerals? Telling people God hates them? How is that positive? And I don't condone repaying their hatred, but I don't think what they're doing is Christ-like. And honestly, I don't see how what you're saying right now -and your previous comment as well- has much of anything to with what is being said in this documentary. Yes, America is a corrupt country but this is NOT the gospel, or the keeping of the commandments of the Bible.

[imasuper0308]

@MyBarbaricYAWP22 How are they being "horrible"? Being thankful and understanding death is an exceptionally positive attitude and in no way is that a negative. Yes we should be thankful and think of the bright side for things that happen. Suggesting they are horrible for sharing what they believe might be horrible. Why not flip that around and see what people do to them? Which is worse? People do need to wake up and start keeping the commandments and not get angry about silly things.

[MyBarbaricYAWP22]

@songbird3rmj Yes, mentally, definitely.

[MyBarbaricYAWP22]

@imasuper0308 But keeping the commandments shouldn't entail being horrible to other people, that isn't christ-like at all. Yes, they are right on some things, but definitely not all.

[MyBarbaricYAWP22]

These people are NOT Calvinists. Calvinists believe in an element of grace in salvation, they do not. Don't call them Calvinists, that disgraces the name.

[eddybullet]

Their women are hot.