Can God exist? Infinity problem, Judging issues. 2/

This is part two of can God exists?

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I talk and ask question about adding to infinite or taking away and how an eternal being would view time, and the problems this posses.

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[Grealsa]

you are an idiot.

[architectus777]

@Grealsa Thank you for showing me such kindness as I'm sure you wanted to say much harsher things right? :p

[maliir]

A number of philosopher argue that any property, quality found in human being is abent from GOD. eg. sexual power is not found in God that is GOD CAN NOT DO SEXUAL ACTIVITIES. sIMILARLY tHEY ARGUE KNOWLIDGE IS IS PROPERTY of humans and GOD IS with out knowlige, try to refute their this argument. Ypur argument may be valid only and only if Knowlidge is the commen quality of GOD AND HUMAN BEING..This is not possible according to them .Atleast your arguments has its limits of inaccuracy.

[architectus777]

@maliir Consciousness and thinking are also human qualities, of which I guess God cannot have. What is God then if It cannot think?

[architectus777]

Mabu, well, if there were such a thing as an eternal being, it would exists outside of time, so linear time (how we observe reality) wouldn't be a factor of this being.

If not linear, what's left?

[Klebkatt]

Before I tread over these vids and listen in, are you bashing belivers or just giving your thoughts on how God can/cannot exist?

[architectus777]

You should only listen if you want to, but no I don't bash people.

[maxwellpassion]

If you have an infinite stack of books. LIKE REALLY HAVE ONE. And then you take out all the green ones. You'll just have an infinite stack of both red and green. You just changed the pattern, that's all. It's more confusing than you think.

[Gnomefro]

@maliir

P1: (Your premise)Any property, quality found in human being is absent from GOD

P2: The most basic quality of humans is that they exist

Conclusion: Therefore God does not exist

Too embarrassing an argument for me to relate to, but it seems to follow directly from your silly assertion about the nature of god, which by the way you have not presented any reason why anyone should accept as dealing with reality.

[RicenCoal]

There is a difference between having an infinite amount of knowledge and having all knowledge. Though there exist an infinity of possible numerical values between 0 and 1, not all numerical values exist between 0 and 1. The interesting question is, can we even say all numerical values exist between infinity and negative infinity, and, even if we could, would we really have said anything meaningful? After all, infinity is not a number.

[RicenCoal]

Infinity may be found in finite things. How many numbers exist between 0 and 1? An infinite. How many numbers are there between 0 and 2? an infinite. Yet there are twice the numbers between 0 and 2 as there are between 0 and 1. Infinites exist everywhere. Some are larger than others. Infinites are added and multiplied in even the simplest of mathematics (1+2=3). Your right though, Theistic gods are bogus.

[marveymarker]

The other thing you point out is that it doesn't make sense that if God is outside of time and sees events in no particular order, why would he then judge favourably a conversion in later life when most the deeds done are evil and only a small amount good.

I think this makes perfect sense because at the end of someone's life if they are a follower of Jesus it means they have made their continuing decision based on all the knowledge and experience of their lifetime.

[marveymarker]

You point out that the balance of good deeds vs bad is imbalanced and therefore doesn't make sense that God would forgive?

However, you assume that forgiveness is an act of justice, but it is an act of mercy. It is not a characteristic of the person, but of God. It is God's ultimate decision of whether someone receives mercy or not. The whole point of Jesus dying was to take away that imbalance, he paid the debt owed for the bad we have done.