Re: The Bible Is True (VenomfangX Video Response)

Well I swore I wouldn't get onto these religion/atheism videos again, but i just wanted a sense of clarity and human intelligence to wash over some people, namely venomfangx.

If it's boring you, don't bother watching it. But there is a question at the end that you might like to answer.

This isn't so much a "God doesn;t exist" video, it's more of a "God doesn't HAVE to exist video". I'm not saying Christians should all become Atheists over night, just that us humans are pretty darned intelligent, and alot of stuff told to us in the Bible was infact found out by the fantastic species we are, not by God.

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[Sledgehammerjoe]

In response to your question, yes, humans do have intelligence and dignity, anyone who says different is a fool.

However, we are not perfect, religion gives us a sense of what is right and wrong. Most of our modern ideas of right and wrong and legal systems are derived from religious jurisprudence. Religion has given us a lot, I try my best never to lie or to manipulate words for one reason, for God, even if it is also common sense, though most intelligent people still forget that.

[yppahpeek]

I'm thinking of posting a video explaining in more depth about morals. I think religion was a way of TEACHING people morals, which were ultimately decided by man. Man then used a religion to tell people how to live.

[johnnysane]

Fun fact: even in the Bible, it states that "...I create good and evil; I, the Lord God, do all these things."

In the original Greek and Hebrew texts, it also makes Satan out to be a servant to God, sent to test humanity.

But then, it also states that God couldn't defeat an army for his people because they were in iron chariots. So, one has to decide whether to be a literalist or take the Bible as the parable-lesson it was originally meant to be.

[johnnysane]

Ah, you do know that other animals have moral systems and working civil societies, too... right? So where did theirs come from?

Just a thought here...

Doesn't it make sense for ideas like "murder is bad" and "don't steal" make sense as survival traits? I mean, killing people is counter to the whole "survival of the species" thing, and stealing makes you a social outcast (thus lowering your chances of breeding and being part of the community).

Most atheists are moral, too, y'know.

[johnnysane]

The problem is that, if you have a creator god that is omniscient, the concept of free will goes out the window.

You see, an omniscient god already knows what you're going to do in every moment of your life. One cannot choose to NOT perform the actions that have been foreseen; saying it is possible to do so is saying that the god in question is not actually all-knowing.

Therefore, said omniscient entity choosing to punish people for doing what they were predestined to do anyway is unfair.

[johnnysane]

Originally, Hell was not written in Jewish (and what later became Christian) texts as being an eternal punishment.

In fact, that aspect of Hell wasn't even canon until some time after the First Council of Nicaea.

[SuperiorSavior]

If all kids go to heaven, surely the rational thing for any parent to do is to murder their children as soon as they leave the womb, so they'll guarantee their kids a place in heaven? The problem with strict laws is that you can always find a loop-hole somewhere to make a mockery of them.

God is the captor if he exists: He created the chain of non-random events that led to our every sinful thought, and allowed randomness to creep in, and so imprisone us to lives of disobedience and sin.

[SuperiorSavior]

Most forms of judaism don't even seem to have a hell, they just obliterate sinners, which is slightly better than a short period of soul smelting in Hell, though Islamic Hell > Christian Hell by an infinite ammount :)

The question of why god allows them to commit bad acts is still open, when they could've been made just as free but without the desire to do evil. As all people's desires, thoughts and actions were determined by God when he made their souls and bodies He's really responsible.

[SuperiorSavior]

Why does a perfect Being (who therefore knows everything incluing the future) need to test us? He knew what we'd do in the test before we even were created. If the test is meant to teach us something, he could've taught us something more efficiently (because he's omnipotent).

The belief in perfect justice is the cause of the belief that people who get diseases are all evil and deserve it. Which is also the reason the jews thought pork brought god's wroth.

[SuperiorSavior]

As if venomfang accepts video responses. I've tried watching most of his videos but i've hardly ever finished one of them. I feel like my brain's being blended up and spooned out through my nostril every time i watch.

Just because something is good for your health, doesn't mean it's morally wrong. The people knew it through trail and error: as they thought bad things only happened to bad people, they thought god was punishing them with the disease for eating pork and wrote it in the bible.

[beezlebubismybitch]

If god was really that smart he would have told us not to eat chicken. eating uncooked chicken is 50x worse than eating pork.

[liamgyu]

the only evidence we have of god is the bible then if this is a book handed down to us from an omnipitent being it should be without peer genises for instance has been totaly debunked.the hypothosis of a new earth flys in the face of 99% of the scientific comunity,also if there is a god where has he been lately no turning peploe into pillars of salt no sightings he certainly hasnt spoken to me,there is to much evidence against there being a creator,the world is round,devils dont make disease!