Calvinism's Elephant

A fair question for Calvinism: what motivation does any man or woman have to stop committing any of their sins?

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[Iamfreeryou]

I have seen an argument posed which states it is right to serve God even if he sends you to hell. Now that might sound good in Calvinism but not in the real world. A "god" who random sends people to hell even if they are doing as he said (turning from their sins to live through the power of Christ) is a "god" not to be served but outlawed. Suppose you knew God would send you to hell (the unelect) - would you still serve him? And if you answer this yes, the real question is why waste time?

[revulayshun]

As for the question of " Why should a person stop sinning?" , simple. A person ought not to sin. It is the right and propper thing for a creature of God to do that which pleases his Creator. Even if that person were to spend eternity in Hell for their past transgressions, repentance is still the right and propper action.

[Iamfreeryou]

@revulayshun can the unelect stop sinning?

[SDGfella]

God's Grace is not an excuse to sin, it is the Power Not to

[sonoffalconqueen]

@revulayshun

Those who work (old covenant sacrifices etc.) are flesh; those who believe and receive the Holy spirit are born again in spirit. Flesh (Esau) is rejected, spirit is eternally elected. No flesh shall boast before God!

[SuperRalph76]

However for those supposed pastors of Gods word who ignore the clear and explicit teachings of the Word Of God that rebuke calvinism and choose to call "free will" a doctrine of the devil, to them i feel the greatest of hell awaits them if they repent not. The apostle Paul had no problem causing divisions over important doctrinal matters. Nor do I nor should any Christain Brother or Sister when it comes to defending Gods truths and properly rebuking calvism. God Bless the Saints In Christ Jesus.

[SuperRalph76]

The apostle Paul had no problem causing divisions over important doctrinal matters.nor do I nor should any Christain Brother or Sister when it comes to defending Gods truths and properly rebuking calvism. God Bless the Saints In Christ Jesus.

[SuperRalph76]

However for those supposed pastors of Gods word who ignore the clear and explicit teachings of the Word Of God that rebuke calvinism and choose to call "free will" a doctrine of the devil, to them i feel the greatest of hell awaits them if they repent not.

[SuperRalph76]

I feel blessed to hear that you've been freed from this doctrine of satan called calvinism. Its my strong prayer that many many more will be freed too someday soon (asap). For those unknowingly following calvinism; as you once did until you researched it yourself, i consider them innocent.

[heygeno1951]

yep....you said it !

[Iamfreeryou]

@Iamfreeryou but please if you have further comment on this matter and you have a camera available or at the leat a mic - make a video response and we can discuss this in much further detail. Actually from my video I am not coming hard against Calvinism (or saying they are unsaved); however, I am stating some natural conclusions of Calvinism which I actually believed while I was a Calvinist.

[Iamfreeryou]

@graceexplosion faith includes works........ Lack of works (continuing in sin) will send you to hell. However if you are a calvinist, which I believe you are saying you are, you still haven't answered my question. Bc from the honest calvinist viewpt a person must be regenerated from eternity to be saved and to even be able to have faith. While you say it is a lack of faith which sends a person to hell - I am going past that to the "first cause" the lack of regeneration.

[graceexplosion]

@Iamfreeryou The issue is the gospel of Jesus Christ. If a Buddhist does not believe in Jesus Christ and has no living faith -- God doesn't care how many Buddhist works they do. Their righteousness is as filthy rags before God and they will not make it to Heaven. A person must be washed in the blood of Jesus, born-again.  False religions the world over don't like that you must have living faith in Jesus and be born-again to go to Heaven - and no works will get you in. You're not a Christian.