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You went from holding around around 2:10/100 to 1:22/100 for dist in a matter of months and you are worried about hitting a wall LMAO! If you kept this rate of progress going you would be representing your country in London 2012. Holding sub 1:20/100 for dist takes years of training for most. If these really are your stats then keep doing what you are doing + main sets like 20x100@58-60spm on 1:35. At this level gradually increasing volume helps too. Thats what this tubby adolescent would do.
@pnewell74 I swim at 55 spl (I bought a wetronome) and I take 16 or 17 strokes per 25m length depending on how tired I am. Now you are probably thinking I could go faster than 22 mins, but I don't know how to tumble turn yet without getting a pint of water up my nose. I learnt to swim from Youtube. I was doing a mile in 35 mins some months ago, but now I'm kind of hitting a wall and don't know what to improve next. I figured stroke rate, but this lady is insane.
@pedwards1978 I feel your pain but there is no 'one style fits all' just type Janet Evans into google and you will see what I mean. TI is great for learning how to reduce drag and getting a feel for hip driven freestyle and low SPL swimming but they don't seem as concerned with speed. SS have great info in relation to CSS training and increasing stroke rate. SS seem to promote a higher stroke rate shoulder driven type of freestyle which probably suits distance swimming (OW and pool) better.
If you are swimming a 22min mile you are holding around 1:22/100 for distance. for a recreational swimmer that hasnt had 'lessons' this is more than okish. What is your stroke rate and SPL at this pace? What is your height?
Swim the TI way, or the swimsmooth way, or like 'x' or 'y'. As someone who is OKish at swimming (I swim a mile in 22 mins) it is hard for me to work out what to improve next when they all contradict each other and its making me even more reluctant to have lessons.
@pnewell74 no, I don't know a huge amount about swimming. That is why I am watching instructional videos about swimming. When the same company shows videos of 2 completely different styles its hard to work out what they teach. There seems to be a huge element of snake oil peddling as well in swimming. Companies saying 'hold your arms in a 'Y' shape and then you see olympic swimmers not doing that. Or glide with each stroke and others saying no, rate is more important than length.
@pedwards1978 you are watching a 6ft male olympic swimmer swimming easypace/semi catch-up and making a camparison to a 5'8" female tri/open water swimmer holding 1:10's at race pace. Grant, Keiran Perkins all swim in the 80spm range and their arms didnt snap off. I think that ss vid says Bill swims a 1:10 at about 32spl which works out at about 55-58spm not 40spm. You dont know much about this sport. Come back and criticise Jodie's style when you can hold 1:10/100 for distance. She swims great.
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AreannaofficalXD 1 week ago
You went from holding around around 2:10/100 to 1:22/100 for dist in a matter of months and you are worried about hitting a wall LMAO! If you kept this rate of progress going you would be representing your country in London 2012. Holding sub 1:20/100 for dist takes years of training for most. If these really are your stats then keep doing what you are doing + main sets like 20x100@58-60spm on 1:35. At this level gradually increasing volume helps too. Thats what this tubby adolescent would do.
pnewell74 1 month ago
@pedwards1978 Damn I meant 55 spm. lol.
pedwards1978 1 month ago
@pedwards1978 Oh and I am 5' 10". :-)
pedwards1978 1 month ago
@pnewell74 I swim at 55 spl (I bought a wetronome) and I take 16 or 17 strokes per 25m length depending on how tired I am. Now you are probably thinking I could go faster than 22 mins, but I don't know how to tumble turn yet without getting a pint of water up my nose. I learnt to swim from Youtube. I was doing a mile in 35 mins some months ago, but now I'm kind of hitting a wall and don't know what to improve next. I figured stroke rate, but this lady is insane.
pedwards1978 1 month ago
@pedwards1978 I feel your pain but there is no 'one style fits all' just type Janet Evans into google and you will see what I mean. TI is great for learning how to reduce drag and getting a feel for hip driven freestyle and low SPL swimming but they don't seem as concerned with speed. SS have great info in relation to CSS training and increasing stroke rate. SS seem to promote a higher stroke rate shoulder driven type of freestyle which probably suits distance swimming (OW and pool) better.
pnewell74 1 month ago
If you are swimming a 22min mile you are holding around 1:22/100 for distance. for a recreational swimmer that hasnt had 'lessons' this is more than okish. What is your stroke rate and SPL at this pace? What is your height?
pnewell74 1 month ago
Swim the TI way, or the swimsmooth way, or like 'x' or 'y'. As someone who is OKish at swimming (I swim a mile in 22 mins) it is hard for me to work out what to improve next when they all contradict each other and its making me even more reluctant to have lessons.
pedwards1978 1 month ago
@pnewell74 no, I don't know a huge amount about swimming. That is why I am watching instructional videos about swimming. When the same company shows videos of 2 completely different styles its hard to work out what they teach. There seems to be a huge element of snake oil peddling as well in swimming. Companies saying 'hold your arms in a 'Y' shape and then you see olympic swimmers not doing that. Or glide with each stroke and others saying no, rate is more important than length.
pedwards1978 1 month ago
@pedwards1978 you are watching a 6ft male olympic swimmer swimming easypace/semi catch-up and making a camparison to a 5'8" female tri/open water swimmer holding 1:10's at race pace. Grant, Keiran Perkins all swim in the 80spm range and their arms didnt snap off. I think that ss vid says Bill swims a 1:10 at about 32spl which works out at about 55-58spm not 40spm. You dont know much about this sport. Come back and criticise Jodie's style when you can hold 1:10/100 for distance. She swims great.
pnewell74 1 month ago