In response to Jack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnZs6IRqnc
1. Declarative statements are made with the intent (desire) of having the listener believe that said statement is true.
2. If one provides evidence for a claim, then said claim is more likely to be believed.
C. A person making a claim ought to provide evidence for the claim. (Burden of proof)
One more criticism that I forgot to add to the video:
Some (mainly atheists) might point out that I fail to make a distinction between "positive" and "negative" claims. I think such a distinction is a load of crap, and has no meaning when placed under logical scrutiny. If anyone disagrees, by all means, let me know.
@gklr A belief is that which someone holds to be true, so of course it is a claim of truth in its own right, it just hasn't reached the level of knowledge(a greater truth-claim). Beliefs still have a burden of proof.
lookit87 9 months ago
@gklr
Of course an infinite number of claims are possible: I have one coin in my pocket. I have two coins in my pocket. I have three coins in my pocket, etc.
IAmTheScum13 1 year ago
@JoakimfromAnka,
"The reason why burden of proof lies on claim maker is because there's an infinite amount of claims possible"
Really? With a limited number of minds? How is that?
"If the default position was belief "
What the hell is a default position? There is no such thing.
"Default position must be negative as long as humans are capable of lying and are not omnicent."
Does that sentence mean anything to you or do you need to rephrase it? It says nothing to me whatsoever.
gklr 1 year ago
Only claims of truth have a burden of proof. No belief can be proven true. If a belief is proven true, it is no longer a belief. It is then a truth.
Beliefs are possibly true and possibly false. If a truth is proven true it is not possibly false and therefore not a belief.
No belief has a burden of proof.
gklr 1 year ago
1, 2, C.
I like it. ;)
eljagg01 1 year ago
The reason why burden of proof lies on claim maker is because there's an infinite amount of claims possible, everything in human imagination. If the default position was belief then every possible claim should be believed intill someone prooves it false. A such world would lead to madness. Anyone could accuse anyone of any crime and as long has he is not proven innocent then he is guilty. Default position must be negative as long as humans are capable of lying and are not omnicent.
JoakimfromAnka 1 year ago
The debate that makes me wants to stab my eyes out and rip other peoples hair out.
He's skeptical of skepticism. He's avoiding giving the burden of his claims by refocusing on "Well what is the burden of proof?"
It's a red herring.
sabertooth1980 1 year ago