Karl Marx, as Spoken of by David O. McKay, LDS Church Pres.

Karl Marx is exposed as the pathetic lying child of hell he was by the aged David O. McKay, at the time this audio was recorded in the 1960's, was the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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[TheRorybreaker]

“The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it”

[gted65]

@ApertureHistory- indeed Marx's intent was to transform, control, and rob humanity of it's very core and most precious gift, agency. Marx's idea of communism would enslave men and crush agency. Agency has at it's core our godly birthright, the fire that burns within us to achieve, become better individuals, evolving society to a higher level, a whole greater than the sum of its parts. Marx would extinguish that fire. His concept of transformation is frighteningly misguided and evil. 

[ApertureHistory]

The merit of Marx is that he suddenly produces a qualitative change in the history of social thought. He interprets history, understands its dynamic, predicts the future, but in addition to predicting it, he expresses a revolutionary concept: the world must not only be interpreted, it must be transformed.

[spinordie1]

God states what the results of personal decisions and actions are and then counsels and gives commandments on how to achieve happiness in this world and beyond the grave. Marx wanted to manipulate and force people to do his will.

The forces applied to follow Mormonism is the force of your own conversion and conscience. The force to follow communism is the fear of fines, imprisonment, and death.

[ediblesponge]

@utgeekmattie1 Well, to steal your phrasing, you sound more like a lot of people I know who dogmatically and closed-mindedly pursue religion and attempt to deny others of the rights to their own opinions. God's minced more words since the dawn of time than butchers have minced sausages in the same period... proof of this is that if there was no mincing of words then perhaps all people would worship one God and agree on everything about him/her rather than following strange cults like Mormonism.

[TheOptimusprime9]

@personatoobject I'm not obligated moral exist at all according to human widsom alone. That's my point. Mankind left wholly to itself knows nothing. Human understanding to morality is merely a weak construct that can be undone by other men, as the nihilistic discipline proves. The only real knowlege one can ever obtain is from God. Otherwise we can never really no anything about anything. So for all your jargon and conceit, your knowlege is only a superficial vanity that will pass away.

[TheOptimusprime9]

@personatoobject I have defended Muslims and people of other beliefs many a time. I believe in the tolerence, reverence, and embrace of relgion. People who try to prove that their religions are superior to others, whether they are aetheist, muslim, jewish ect. are the one's with the problems. By the way, my religion is not nihilistic by definition, it offers value and purpose in the universe and empowers the individual. You're way off. Ta ta.

[TheOptimusprime9]

@personatoobject Good luck on earning your degree. I have one to earn as well. My thinking is not unilateral or hypocritical by any means. For all the similarities between marxism and the communalism of early christianity, there is one major difference: free will. In Christian communalism it is not believed people should be forced into making the system work against their will, in Marxism it is. And I m not disagreeing that McKay isn't making a conclusive case against Marx, but his infoisuseful.

[utgeekmattie1]

"Ye do always resist the Holy Ghost." When the Lord comes a second time, those who seek to hide deep their intellectual-only rationalizations will be the one's flustered. The Holy Ghost and the Lord do not mess around and have testified of the gospel themselves; to say you can only know truth through exercizing the brain or showing some physical phenomenon is myopic and short-sighted and lacking in character. You can prove the gospel is true by the Holy Ghost, but it is internal & individual.

[personatoobject]

Also your misreading of Hume is haunting you. Hume said that sensory responses dictate human morality, it is a manifestation of the naturalistic fallacy. You are denying the fundamentals of your and every faith by claiming a Humean understanding of morality. To you they are universal laws to which all are bound irrespective of their origins and culture, that is an apt building block for the sort of totalitarianism you claim to abhor. You are obligated to believe that morals are empirical