Vallankumouksen sytyttäjät - MVR (2/2)
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You can't stop atrocities by committing more atrocities. The environmental disaster plaguing our world is not going to be solved by a bunch of people burning down buildings. If anything, that just makes people hate radical environmentalism.
The world is not going to be saved by some organized revolution by a small group of people. It can only come about if everyone makes a personal decision to be more environmentally friendly and to withdraw from consumer culture.
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"Nothing ever burns down by itself, every fire needs a little bit of help."
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and now , the truck needs a repaint , or junked . the houses need (and will ) be rebuilt . the tractor trailer will be junked and replaced .......there is more damage to the earth in this video than i have done to the earth in my lifetime .........this is like when the USA was mad at the french , and was smashing wine on the street . 6 months later there where even bigger orders for french wine to replace the ones smashed
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E.L.F UK
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You have to break some eggs to make an omelet you shmuck. Every movement and revolution is not perfect. Name one perfect movement from history. Fuck you for saying that. You are nothing but a product of civilization. You don't have a soul.
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Its economic sabotage because you capitalistic bastards only care about money. You wont listen to peaceful protests so sooner or later someone is going to have to get militant. Capitalism is destroying the world anyways(the rain forest) and has done more damage to the environment than the ELF ever could in 100 years.
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how can you save the earth by relasing green house gases (setting shit on fire) and depleting the ozone (spraypaint everywhere)
they are all hypocritical dumbasses
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"Natural and necessary?" So, burning down big homes in Seattle is natural and necessary? MLK didn't need this type of action, and he changed the world with nothing more than a dream. ELF suffers from a lack of imagination. Go non-violent and make a difference.
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long live the front...rising is the only way..ppl open your eyes the system fight us with army , disinformation ecc...they trheat us like terrosist ...but who's the real terrorist isn't a terroristic way of life? living under a fear state. money kills freedom cause profit it's the only rule.
I agree it's inaccurate to refer to ELF as "terrorists", but what you people don't realize is that your fires generate an enormous amounts of pollution, and most times,these places are just rebuilt. And insurance companies aren't exactly quivering with apprehension about developing land because of you. Also, ELF is always a convienient strawman to be used against environmental alarmists, and strawmen are ALWAYS helpful - just a sad fact of life.
BillyBawb 4 years ago
I somewhat agree about the shortcomings of these tactics. It has also been argued that the security measures involved in this type of action require a remarkable degree of specialisation, which prevents the insurrectionary spirit and action from spreading and generalizing. I wouldn't want to talk in terms of "you" and "we": couldn't this tactic and discussion be seen as a living experiment in our common struggle? But how can you blame the ELF if someone uses it as a strawman?
kuparanto 4 years ago
notice how youtube have took the other version of this video off the site because of what they call 'terms of violation', basically meaning that it tells the truth so they aren't going to let people see it.
seanmcg4 5 years ago
And there's always a human person responsible for these decisions - probably an average worker that either identifies more with the Corporation (or State or Church or whatever blend of mastery she feels proud to serve) than with bare life; or he decides, perhaps a bit reluctantly, to comply with superior's orders rather than lose his precious job. To add a bit of historical insight: such attitudes and choices were key ingredients in accomplishing the holocaust.
kuparanto 5 years ago
Anyone know where I can download the song "nothing ever burns down by itself"?
welshgreen 5 years ago
It's a song by Chumbawamba, from 'Anarchy'. A live recording is on 'Showbusiness'.
kuparanto 5 years ago