Edified - Why Atheist Believe in God - Sye TenBruggencate and Presuppositional Apologetics | 002

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The Chocolate Knox sits down with Sye Tenbruggencate of http://proofthatgodexists.org and discusses why it is atheist are lying every time they claim to not believe in God. Does your apologetic assist atheist in deceiving themselves, or is it consistent with the Word of God?

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[theTRUTHgroup]

LOVE this format and the short, effective points!!!

[transplantministries]

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[sweetsweatyfeet]

An unfortunate consequence believers letting the bible do their thinking for them was best expressed by Robert Ingersoll who said...

"Whenever a man believes that he has the exact truth from God,

there is in that man no spirit of compromise. He has not the

modesty born of the imperfections of human nature; he has the

arrogance of theological certainty and the tyranny born of ignorant

assurance".

[RationalWhoTuber]

You lied in the video title. You never gave any info why Atheists believe in god, just a couple stories of people who questioned their faith. I’m an Atheist, don't speak for me. I don’t believe there is/are god(s) EX: No evidence, contradictions & errors in bible, many other non exclusive religions. If you post a video, please don’t lie in the title. You actually have to say why Atheists don’t believe in god. How about you just post some evidence for god(s). God-of-the-gaps argument fail.

[RationalWhoTuber]

Eh, no. Atheists lack the beleif in god(s), thats it. We don't beleive, fear, hate, or love god(s)... since we lack any beleif in god(s). Just like our lack of belief in unicorns, pixies, or gnomes. Just like you don't beleive in god(s) other than the one you believe in.

You're clearly mistaken, so we'll let this slide this one time. Please do some research if you really want to learn about atheism. In the meantime, please don't speak for us, it makes you look stupid, and us laugh at you.

[caligulathegod]

@ProofThatGodExists BullShit, Sye. Your imaginary being is not the standard. Your Bible is not the standard. The Pre-Sup argument is essentially an admission that you have no argument and must jump right to "I'm right" with no justification. What Sye does is take a "concept" and then just calls it God. We are not borrowing from your WorldView. You don't "own" right and wrong or truth. You are using your senses to read your Bible and your mind to interpret it.

[stevenweir76]

@ProofThatGodExists - I'm giving you lots of answers but all I hear from you is questions. My perception is that I use my senses to guide me, if they betray me, I ascertain why and adjust them, I make my views consistent with the evidence and experience I have to eliminate my cognitive dissonance. I have no dogma, I have no sacred beliefs.

[stevenweir76]

@ProofThatGodExists - As for limits of perception, how do you know that the concept of God wasn't derived by an evil being, or a scam artist simply formalizing superstitions on paper? What basis do you have for your logic and understanding. What is your epistemology?

[stevenweir76]

@ProofThatGodExists - A dog might save its owner from drowning, but not a stranger, a moral decision. Where is the dog God? Does that dog's morality stem from its religion. DO the virtuous acts of animals not deserve praise, dolphins who save humans from shark or treat people kindly who swim with them? Do cat's not show love, albeit different than the complexity of human love?

[stevenweir76]

@ProofThatGodExists - As for morality I don't know that there is an absolute standard. I perceive murder to be wrong, yet murder happens, a murderer's morality is not necessarily the same, murder is often justified and in war celebrated. Conditions in societies vary and so do accepted practices and perceptions.

[stevenweir76]

@ProofThatGodExists - Stemming from my epistemology I can build greater complexity. Your argument lies in that we can't trust our senses, in which case, neither can you which means that your perception is also limited, a wise thing to understand about one's beliefs and perceptions. But not allowing our logic and reason there is no argument, for either of us. But why are you asking me to ignore my senses? How else should one navigate reality?

[stevenweir76]

@ProofThatGodExists - And all religions I have read or learned anything have flaws which lead me to KNOW that they are false. For instance, in what purpose would a benevolent being ask anyone to kill anyone and cause unneeded anguish? The very root of the Abrahamic religion is immoral, and there are many examples of things attributed to your God which would only be malevolent. His intolerance of sin is even malevolent as nothing on Earth would matter to immortals.