You dive at Honda during a HHS. It works 90% of the time. I've even done it to Thelo a number of times. Knock down on Honda doesn't matter. There's plenty he can do to escape T.Hawks shenanigans.
Yes the new dive is better vs sim. Why you are ever divin against honda is beyond me. You really DONT dive against honda ever unless he lost his charge in which case it is safe. if your diving at honda when he has a charge then you deserve to get hit.
id much rather have to struggle a little more against sim then struggle 100000x more against guile and dj
Although the old Dive DID help a ton on Guile and DeeJay, it usually meant for doom you on Honda or Dhalsim. With the HDR Dive, I've had little to no difficulty getting in. One less tool too knock Dhalsim down hasn't really bothered me. Psychic DP's work fine.
also the dive being safer is actually worse in his bad matchups (guile honda dj). saying its worse for sim is a tossup since he can push you out after a blocked dive still (he doesnt get a hk punishment now but still, the knockdown hawk got from old dive was huge).
the dp was not changed at all as regards to safety goes. yes the fierce knocks down now. cool. you only used fierce dp as a hawk in the dizzy combo (cross up splash, closemk x fierce dp) which both hits hit more often than not.
if im a random xbl scrub then come prove me wrong. ill rape you with hawk any day. hes my main.
the dive and dragon punch move are safer, thats 2 very important fucking moves. the dp move always knocks down now. If you're too dumb to understand how much that improves hawk's game then you truly are a scrub. Also he has o.hawks regulars which are better.
so seriously stfu. school me? who the fuck are you? daigo? lol, ur just another random xbox live scrub. fuck off and go play with the traffic, fucking prick.
the fact that the only thing that was made "safe" in hdr was his dive (which made his bad matchups worse). most of his damage (afros) came from nira not blocking low on wakeup (probably trying to reversal dp). the fact that you said they made a lot of his unsafe shit safe in hdr shows how little you know.
if you ever wanna get schooled in HDR send a game invite on 360 to inferno625 and ill show you that you dont know what you're talking about
Bar-log lol
Mensahwatts 1 year ago
I didn't think the super would execute if the opponent is behind Hawk's back. Guess ya learn something new everyday.
ovkenike 2 years ago
You dive at Honda during a HHS. It works 90% of the time. I've even done it to Thelo a number of times. Knock down on Honda doesn't matter. There's plenty he can do to escape T.Hawks shenanigans.
JigglyNorris 3 years ago
Yes the new dive is better vs sim. Why you are ever divin against honda is beyond me. You really DONT dive against honda ever unless he lost his charge in which case it is safe. if your diving at honda when he has a charge then you deserve to get hit.
id much rather have to struggle a little more against sim then struggle 100000x more against guile and dj
gridking 3 years ago
Sorry Grid, but I disagree with you.
Although the old Dive DID help a ton on Guile and DeeJay, it usually meant for doom you on Honda or Dhalsim. With the HDR Dive, I've had little to no difficulty getting in. One less tool too knock Dhalsim down hasn't really bothered me. Psychic DP's work fine.
JigglyNorris 3 years ago
LOL @ 0:21, behind-the-back super.
MiloDC 3 years ago
also the dive being safer is actually worse in his bad matchups (guile honda dj). saying its worse for sim is a tossup since he can push you out after a blocked dive still (he doesnt get a hk punishment now but still, the knockdown hawk got from old dive was huge).
gridking 3 years ago
the dp was not changed at all as regards to safety goes. yes the fierce knocks down now. cool. you only used fierce dp as a hawk in the dizzy combo (cross up splash, closemk x fierce dp) which both hits hit more often than not.
if im a random xbl scrub then come prove me wrong. ill rape you with hawk any day. hes my main.
gridking 3 years ago
the dive and dragon punch move are safer, thats 2 very important fucking moves. the dp move always knocks down now. If you're too dumb to understand how much that improves hawk's game then you truly are a scrub. Also he has o.hawks regulars which are better.
so seriously stfu. school me? who the fuck are you? daigo? lol, ur just another random xbox live scrub. fuck off and go play with the traffic, fucking prick.
hardgayramen4ever 3 years ago
the fact that the only thing that was made "safe" in hdr was his dive (which made his bad matchups worse). most of his damage (afros) came from nira not blocking low on wakeup (probably trying to reversal dp). the fact that you said they made a lot of his unsafe shit safe in hdr shows how little you know.
if you ever wanna get schooled in HDR send a game invite on 360 to inferno625 and ill show you that you dont know what you're talking about
gridking 3 years ago