Tor-M1 Russian medium-range anti-air missile system
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@VERGIS92 Well, the soviets were, indeed, extremely capable. They also oriented their massive industry towards military purposes, so of course they could build amazing stuff. The Americans and the west, in general, always tended to underestimate the soviets, only to be totally caught by surprise by the soviets in many occasions.
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@VERGIS92 Well, espionage happens both ways. However, such activities are very difficult and dangerous. They're not as easy as you make them look here. So technology can definitely be built quicker then someone can steal it.
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@StiviGun1 also during the 80s, there had been a case here in Greece, 3 people who worked in a Stinger missile assembly line were caught for spying , they had sold the entire plans of that particular Stinger to the Soviets, it's illegal to sell to anyone, even to a US company, but spies are everywhere and if you pay them well they will copy anything they can or steal the real thing and give it to you
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@StiviGun1 there have been cases where technology was much better in one country, Rolls Royce made very powerful jet engines that even the Soviets bought and put on a mig (those very migs were later shooting down british planes in Korea), the soviets managed to steal some metal shavings from Rolls Royce, and figure out the secret alloy used, also in cold war years, the soviets themselves had made a rocket engine alloy which was alien to the americans, even to the specialists
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@VERGIS92 Well, China has become the bigger copy plagiarist in the world. I guess they could copy. However, they need info for that and for info, they need very efficient intelligence services. And all these cost money and since they need to spend on many different things, I don't think the copy thing can on limitless. Anyway, the Americans can produce technology much faster than China can steal and copy. So China will always be behind.
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@VERGIS92 Well, in this globalized world, from today, I guess it's easier for military technology to slip through. During the Cold War though, things were very different.
Regarding the scientists working from an university to another, they're not allowed to divulge secrets about their work. If they do there could be legal repercussions for them.
Radars that could detect the F-35 could be produced by someone else, yes, but not as easy or quickly the F-35's manufacturers could do it.
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@StiviGun1 nothing is secret in physics, if it can be done it will be done, I heard that the Chinese even copy and reverse engineer microchips (very time consuming but possible), and even that Patriot software if one really wants and had a financial gain, something to make money from it, they could copy it, but most good hackers have better things to steal
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@StiviGun1 like I said, there no secrets between nations (as scientists and physicists work from one university to another, one company to another), the technology is not exclusive to US firms, not top secret, if Lockheed or another US firm doesn't put anti-F35 radar on the market, then someone else will, there are such firms in Europe, Russia, even Israel. and more recently China
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@VERGIS92 Hmm... I find it hard to believe that Lockheed Martin would sell the technology needed to counter the weapons systems it builds. This would actually be a penal crime, which could cost Lockheed Martin its own existence. I don't understand why you rely on the idea that the Americans will sell you their most advanced technologies. The Russians don't do this, so what would they do it?
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@VERGIS92 OK, so how can you locate the F-35's position if you can't keep track on its radar emissions? Storing one emission doesn't help you at all because the plane changes its position at every second. So this won't help. You have to be able to continuously track all the radar emissions of the F-35's radar in order to be able to locate it. How can you do that?
This thing moves before HARM reaches. It can also shoot down the HARM itself.
S300V 2 years ago 9
omg they have vehicles with a spinning thing! Evil russians!!
repulsifik 6 months ago 5