Re: Free Will and more of that irrelevant quantum theory crap
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Everett, does 'life' pass stringent criteria?
dartplayer170 2 years ago
the human insert, changes the comment; So, yes, I suppose.
TJae1 2 years ago
I bet you hate it when you can't get a good argument going? lol. Anyway, you previously replied that nothing is absolute, and this caused a bit of a backlash, but to me it was a statement that was not just semantically cogent, but logically self refuting, so therefore being subject to Godel's theorem of incompleteness, accurate and incontestable, the statement itself admitted of limitations to it's own self.
I personally like the way you make me have to think. That's a rare quality today.
noliketoregister 2 years ago
right, im arguing that will may be a fiction much like saying the sun wants to rise is a fiction. i think it is safe to suppose all explanatory devices to be fictions unless they pass some sort of stringent critera... and i do not see 'will' passing any reasonable set of critera
EverettsVLOG 2 years ago
all true
pyrrho314 2 years ago
Remember the movie Dirty Harry and the line 'A man's got to know his limitations?' I'm paraphrasing. I think it's the last line in the movie. Anyway, my point is that free will has limits, we can only affect causal interactions within the limits of our capabilities, when we exceed those limits it can actually be fatal. When the external world (lets call it that) creates too much opposition to the will, then the will fails and the external world directs the individual.
noliketoregister 2 years ago
yes... like the force of magnetism is overcome by random distribution... probably it takes careful work for a living being to keep the will aligned enough to affect at all generally cuasal interactions.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
>Nothing is absolute, is an absolutist comment; eh?
no, because the full statement is "no human concept can be absolute". Perhaps from the point of light they are absolute, I wouldn't know.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
no.
pyrrho314 2 years ago
if someone finds it fruitful they can tell the story in any terms they like, it may only be fiction, and may be bad fiction. I am trying to tell terms according to an ascetic that appeals to me... with larger things told in terms of smaller things, and dependencies aligned.
pyrrho314 2 years ago