Sviatoslav Richter plays Schumann Toccata Op.7
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in one of the interview books Horowitz tells this funny anecdote. He said to Simon Barere, "Simon, I think you play Toccata too fast." - "Oh, I can play it even faster!" (I think, this was the book with David Dubal.)
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You know, the ritenuto and diminuendo at the end is exactly what the ORIGINAL score shows!
And the older Gilels did that, too!
In my opinion, it gives a very different 'mood' to the piece.
Regards,
Geert.
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Sorry Geert, I meant "scramble", not scrable... My english is not too good. Hope you got the idea though.
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I got your point, but yet in my opinion Richter is the best performer for this piece as a whole.
After what I call the "scrable", near the ending, Richter slows down the tempo and remarks the melody like no one else, slowing down to the "calm" of the end. Most of performers play this part very fast which doesn't make sense to me, Gilels, Lugansky (in my opinion a very good rendition as well), among others, fall into this trap and as I said they rush to the end.
Regards.
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Yes, it was pubished on his second DGG LP, if I remember well.
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Did you listen his live-performances in the seventies ?
The young Gilels played it more like a machine, but when he got older, he changed 180 degrees!
The same happened to Schumann's Carnaval, Opus 9: the old Moscow recording and the much later Los Angeles recording show a VERY different approach!
A performen's evolution is one of the things which make listening to music interesting.
A cordial greeting,
Geert.
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Please notice I'm talking about the OLDER Gilels, not the young one.
As far as I remember, there is no version of the older Gilels on Youtube.
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Well, now I think 144 is totally unnecessary and will only serve maniacs.
The tempo I prefer now is 104. Played at such a moderated speed, the piece becomes light, warm and charming in a rather natural way.
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@geertdehoux By the way Gilel's version is awesome too, couldn't finish my comment.
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Playing this piece at 144 is quite an achievement, but yet, the big challenge is to play this piece remarking the melody all the time without loosing control in the dynamics.
When you can please post your version, I would like to listen.
Regards.
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Listen to Simon Barer's version. The speed is incredible, and he had a technique that Richter could only dream of.
Liebromeistal 2 years ago
If speed is the only subject you're interested in you should look somewhere else..
When Richter played something slower, - it's not because he couldn't do it faster... I understand it's difficult to comprehend though...
truecrypt 2 years ago 7
i adore Horowitz, Richter too..but among all the pianists who plays this piece,i cannot feel more emotions and beauty than Pogorelich's version. Does anyone know that one?
lhiram23 3 years ago
I know pretty well both Ivo and his performance of Toccata. It's rather *super-automatic* and *completely* emotionless! I will post it within couple hours and let's see if others will share your opinin... ;)
truecrypt 3 years ago
question of opinion, as always. i feel that Pogo's version is obsessional, and emotionnal too :-)
the piece asks this rythm, this energy. thanks for posting that in the future, even if this is not for the good reasons :-))
lhiram23 3 years ago
Of course it's only our opinions. Ivo is exceptionally gifted pianist. I remember him since his Conservatory years in Moscow when he studied with Gornostaeva. Still seems to me that Ivo intentionally leveled dynamics, completely switched to staccato and intentionally removed human component. Combination of *super-perfectionism* and *absolute steadiness* approaches almost anti-musical level. BTW, you can find link to Pogorelich performance under Richter's video.
truecrypt 3 years ago