Non prepared plate vs. prepared efficiency test..wmv

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I have known for a long time that properly prepared plates can improve efficiency. I never had much luck with the "Bob Boyce" method of cross sanding plates.But I have seen tremendous increases in efficiency sand blasting my plates. Garnet media is stout and has sharp edges that create deep rough edges in the plate surface thus dramatically increasing surface area and increasing the efficiency at which the hho is created.
Both of these cell are equal in design and size.

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[Haarmonics]

I have another theory: the production of HHO will produce a resistance to further electrolysis if the bubbles remain in the normal path of current, so KEEP changing the plates/gaps to give the previous gap a chance to get fre of rising bubbles. Tell me what you think. Be kind. I'm no physicist! Not a doctor either (LOL)

[delvis11]

I have found, testing my nickel cells that a wider gap can be more efficient with a higher concentration of electrolyte. The bubbles can move away faster.

[Haarmonics]

Awesome job; I LOVE your very inexpensive but accurate 1L guage! 2 things I believe that sandblasting does: increased surface area AND better laminar flow of bubbles to keep bubbles from staying put by surface tension and 'resisting' current/electrolysis

[delvis11]

bubbles are diffidently a lot smaller on a blasted plate. They move away from the plate fasted as well. I believe this is why a prepared blasted plate is more efficient. I have seen over a 20% Increase in some tests and a positive increase in all tests. A blasted plate raises the current density per sq. inch also. More production per inch.

[SmartScarecrow]

very impressive test and must admit that your evidence is pretty convincing ... can I assume that the only difference between the two devices being compared is the rough surface texture ??? I was not able to measure any significant difference during similar experiments that only involved roughing up the surface as per the D9 method ... it took a couple other tricks as well to get a noticeable improvement ...

[delvis11]

I believe that sand blasting makes the difference. Also the input and output holes were sealed with weld on 16 as shown in Larry's latest video. I too tried the d9 method with minimal difference.

[aterack833]

@Jupiterironman even at 10 mmw you would only get 33.6 lpm off that horse power 67 off of 20 mmw

[aterack833]

from a house generator till it starts running good again , then turn it down a tad more and wait again , then add more hho , use a large or in series total lpm of at least 30 to start with testing them you can really see the results , btw you will have to use a half inch tube at least , t it into the low pressure supply hose with a 1"to1"to.5" tee i know youl see results , some are saying that hho wont even increase your mpg , well if you run on gas and lpg will you not use less gas , of corse

[aterack833]

power efficiency and compares it to the size efficiency , you wanna still fit it into your car , and the more hho the better , just lower the fuel , just tweaking the air sensor isn't gonna cut it , you need to really cut down on fuel , one way is to use a lpg vehicle like mine and turn the shutoff valve till the engine starts to starve (it will take a wile , my car runs of the in line pressure for 5 -10 minutes , and its a v8 , but ya get it stumbling and stalling and then add hho from a house

[aterack833]

means) but you could do test with copper or aluminum even and then tell me the results , if you see a notable change in your mmw in a scale test then try larger , if it gets better then go from there , find a less sacrificial material that still conducts well , remember gold wont sacrifice at 24k and its the best conductor in high supply , by the way i cant seem to find any where that sells gold sheets , also remember mmwmm3 is more accurate , it measures the power efficiency and compares it to

[aterack833]

get any conductor instead of a insulator like stainless , because if you think about it better conduction means more electricity goes to the water , now many have said well the electricity goes in so how could it not be used , well i say heat , why do you thing resisters have ceramic on them , its to dissipate heat , the only problem is any material will sacrifice , unless you use gold , now i dont want you using gold (unless you really want to and have the means) but you could do test with co

[aterack833]

aim your sandblaster in only one direction (towards the outlet) will help if you looking for bubble transfer , and also i do believe that if you have deep and not deep scratches it will help , to do this change grit and go harsher as you go (opposite to sanding normal) and even 2 different grits will increase , try the same test with a high grit such as 100 - 200 then the 40 and see if you get an increase worth wile , that and the directional sanding will help , also if you can get any conductor