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@1timby
When I state my opinions in public, they are indeed fair targets. I explicitly welcome intelligent criticism; among other things, it helps me to change my opinions whenever they're incorrect (which does happen occasionally).
If you state an opinion in a public forum, you cannot then claim that a reasoned response is unfairly forcing anything down your throat. If you are wrong in what you state publicly, we have the right to say so; that is free speech.
ThinkingSpeck 2 weeks ago
@1timby
I am no authority; I merely try to choose and update my opinions to match reality. Popular opinion doesn't determine the nature of reality; the universe doesn't care if we're wrong.
I won't tell you how (or whom) to worship. I will defend your right to worship whichever figment you choose and in whichever manner, whilever it doesn't hurt anyone else.
ThinkingSpeck 2 weeks ago
@1timby
Your Constitution guarantees separation of Church and State, regardless of whether you like that fact or "lawyers arguing". You are simply incorrect in saying that this separation isn't in the founding documents; I will say no more on it.
ThinkingSpeck 2 weeks ago
@ThinkingSpeck Should I judge all atheists by the examples down through history. So the same can be said by me. Yet it seems that it's OK for Atheist s to have an opinion and verbally force it down my throat by their comments and derogatory remarks? I think not. So I should have the same rights as you and others have. Don't you think? Or is this another shame?
1timby 4 weeks ago
@ThinkingSpeck I can say the same for your beliefs. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it's any more relevant than mine. So how many folks does it take in a democracy to make a change? Just because you don't agree doesn't make your opinion the one for everyone. As I've stated thousands of times. DON'T BELIEVE. That's your choice. However, you don't have the right to tell me how to worship.
1timby 4 weeks ago
@ThinkingSpeck Please legal precedence. Lawyers arguing. Since when has our legal system been anything other than bought and paid for. I can site all the legal crap I want it means nothing. It was used by a goup of scared judges to set up a precedent. It holds no water. They weren't there to determine what Jefferson was really trying to explain to the Church. Besides it's not in any of the founding docs. As I stated.
1timby 4 weeks ago
@1timby
The Bill of Rights is part of the US Constitution.
Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists is US legal precedent since it was cited in "Reynolds v. U.S." (1878).
Your private beliefs are indeed your own concern. Advocate them in public, however, and they're a legitimate target for criticism.
YouTube has many trolls and poes; I maintain that YouTube comments don't reliably represent any group. Shall I judge Christians by the vilest "Christian" comments on YouTube?
ThinkingSpeck 4 weeks ago
@ThinkingSpeck con't you asked for proof. I provided that. If you're not happy with the proof, well not my problem. It doesn't make my claims any less evidence of what I stated.
1timby 4 weeks ago
@ThinkingSpeck Not so. Why is it that I have to keep proving this. The constitution says nothing about religion. The bill of rights does. It doesn't say anything about the separation of church and state. That was a letter from Jefferson to a church.
My beliefs are not of your concern. We're free to worship as we wish. As provided by the bill of rights.
I feel the same way about your beliefs. However, I fell that you have a right to your opinion. Unlike you it seems.
1timby 4 weeks ago
@1timby
Your constitution says that the government is not allowed to support any religion. No US church should be state-sponsored.
If you've had unprovoked criticisms for wearing a cross, then that's unfair and unfortunate. I have my doubts, though.
Your beliefs are indeed ignorant, flatly contradicting an enormous body of scientific research. Any time you express them publicly, you should expect that people will point this out.
YouTube comments aren't good evidence of anything.
ThinkingSpeck 4 weeks ago