God's Omniscience Part 1

Refuting Calvinism Lesson 1 Pt1

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[LOUISRUGG]

iahm: John 12:32 refers to a universal drawing of all men, which can be resisted according to Acts 7:51. On the other hand, John 6:35-45 refers to the inward call of a specific group of people that meet specific conditions.

[LOUISRUGG]

iahm: Who said the nation of Israel didn't have free will? I know I didn't!

[LOUISRUGG]

To iahm: All men are drawn (John 12:32). The only problem is that God's grace is resistible (Acts 7:51) so not all men respond positively.

[LOUISRUGG]

to Iahm: In Romans 9:18-21, when Paul said that God is the Potter and we are the clay, he was referring to the nation of Israel (see Jeremiah 18:1-6)

[LOUISRUGG]

to skalapunk: Romans 12:3 tells us that God gives every man a measure of faith, nor just His elect. As far as Eph 2:8 is concerned, it is "being saved" which is the gift of God (see Romans 5:12-16).

[edwardpf123]

I believe in salvation by grace THROUGH faith, which is a condition. So what is your definition of TULIP?

[Rachella38]

I'm saved because of the grace of God who has given me the ability to choose. In God's Sovereignty he's given mankind freewill.

scala, you don't believe God loves everyone, do you?

[humanistheart]

@Rachella38 No, if a being was ALL KNOWING, it would know everything it would ever do before it did it. It would thus be incapable of doing anything other than what was already set to happen, anything other than what it knew it would do, and thus there is no choice involved. If there's no choice, there's no free will. So this 'god' wouldn't have free will, and thus by extension neither would it's creations.

[Rachella38]

@humanistheart All knowing/omniscient just means God knows what's going to happen, before it happens. But God doesn't interfere with our freedom/freewill. He gives us all a choice to sin or not to sin.

[humanistheart]

@Rachella38 Not quite, all knowing means no free will for anyone.

[ASerousWorld]

I notice you recomend a long list of books, and give their credentials. I also notice that the bible is not in your list.

Are you truly telling people that they cannot understand the bible and have to follow someone else who is telling them what the bible really says?

[Ellijay100]

roflvh



[5thrabbi]

Notice to veiwers - this series of videos and the various responces to it are a dismal waste of a humans time - If you must veiw it then allow your minds eye to decipher if those involved in this theological arguement have lost their grip on reality

[iahm87]

So the nation of israel didnt have free will and we do?

[iahm87]

Lou: if all men are drawn, all men are raised up according to john 6:44. John 12:32 talks about drawing all kinds of men. Please look at the context. Paul says the cross is a stumbling block to jews and foolishness to gentiles.