Compare this with my quake 2 gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqwQvacNltE
Is Quake 4 a real sequel to Quake 2? Please leave a comment saying what you think and why.
Gamespot says Quake 4 was the best single player experience a quake game could ever have.
I have something to say about that.
Reasons I don't like Quake 4:
1) The invulnerability powerup from quake 2 is not even in the game.
2) Hardly no Quad Damage powerups (none in the video).
3) The music soundtrack is nothing close to Quake 2 and not even the same music genre.
4) They tried to copy call of duty with cutscenes and added a reload button to some weapons. QUAKE DOESN'T NEED A RELOAD BUTTON!
5) They tried to copy the halo dropships instead of using the classic mothership drop pod invasion used in quake2.
6) Instead of sticking closely to the awesome quake 2 story, they decided to start ripping off the star trek borg story and make stroggs even look like borgs.
7) Not the same game as Quake 2. How weapons shoot and other entire mechanics are vastly different. The blaster is nowhere near the blaster from quake 2 (as is every weapon found in quake 4).
8) In multiplayer CTF mode they had the nerve to add an ability powerup called Double Damage (not quad). Among other lame powerups.
9) The marines all look like storm troopers.
10) The strogg all look like robots with pieces of skin glued to metal. That's not even how cyborgs work.
11) Bodies disappear after you kill them. You can't gib them unless they get stuck between a closing door or use an explosive.
12) It's more of a serious sci-fi horror film than a comedy/hilarious violent cartoon that quake 2 was.
13) No hand grenades.
14) Multiplayer deathmatch is completely ripped from quake 3. They didn't even try to make it like a quake 2 deathmatch.
15) All items in singleplayer lay on the floor trying to appear like real world items as a lame attempt to immerse us.
16) The quad damage sound effect has a fade out effect. This makes it so that you can't hear the quad damage during and after each gun fires.
17) None of the original quake 2 maps made it in quake 4. Like the legendary frag pipe map or tokay's towers. The one that did (Edge) was butchered because quake 4 maps can't have water or elevators.
18) Quake 3 bounce pads in multiplayer.
19) The mushroom cloud explosion is gone.
20) No breakable glass and the explosive barrels in quake 4 hardly do anything with small explosions.
21) There is no water in quake 4 for swimming.
22) There is no chaingun.
23) The BFG in Quake 4 sucks. It's not even called a BFG. It's called "the dark matter gun". It shoots a purple and black vortex ball that explodes. Not even close to how the BFG was in Quake 2.
24) To open the developer console you have to hold (Ctrl + Alt + Tilde). Why so many combinations? Quake 2 was fine with just Tilde to open it.
25) An easy options screen doesn't just open onto the game screen like in quake 2. You have to go through a messy, ugly green and black, and complicated one after you push escape.
26) The napalm gun was the only original quake 4 weapon and it doesn't even really work like a napalm gun.
27) The shotgun is weak and awkward because of its fire rate and spread.
28) The machinegun doesn't have that cool recoil that causes you to aim upwards when firing anymore nor does it shoot like it.
29) The hyperblaster was directly from quake 3 instead of the good one from quake 2.
30) The rocket launcher is from quake 3 also.
31) No flies flying around corpses. 32) No more green telepads for telefragging. 33) No red lasers 34) lava. 35) or orange and red skies.
36) Characters you don't care about.
37) The game completely stops until the computer characters get into a certain area you have to lead them to.
38) No keycards. This results in complete linear level progression. The singleplayer is on a locked track.
39) The AI gets in the way.
40) The end of quake 4 was disappointing and even acts like we would want a sequel.
41) No jump HOOAH! noise.
42) No coop mode
43) Bosses suck.
44) No death animations like in Q2. Strogg don't fight one another anymore. No idle animations.
45) Can't sneak up on enemies because they spawn to attack you. So there are no stealth elements like in quake2.
In summary, they gave the finger to the quake 2 fans and tried to appeal to a different audience (quake 3 multiplayer with doom 3 single player). Quake 4 is not a true sequel to quake 2. It is a different game. With that said, is quake 4 a good game? Sort of, yeah. But it's NOT quake 2. That makes the game look especially bad since they marketted it as a real sequel. Sequels are supposed to get better. Everything about this went downhill. Nothing from quake 2 that I would consider made it into quake 4.
At least when Quake 3 was completely different from Quake 2, it didn't market itself as a sequel, but as a competitive tournament match style game. Same with Q1 with regards to Q2.
Don't get me started on Quake Wars.
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They say in the intro in the dropship - marine killed their leader and disabled planetary defenses. Did you honestly expect EVERYTHING to be the same as Quake 2? No 2 games in the same series are ever the same. Also you do know ID Software didn't make this game right? It's an ID game, but it was developed by Raven Software. I was disappointed too, I thought I was getting Quake 2 with awesome graphics. I could care less about the small details you rage about. They wanted it to be more real.
KrazyDanProductions 4 months ago
@KrazyDanProductions Well Raven Software is in my tags, so yeah.
I didn't expect it to be the same, per say. I expected the game to be a good example of a super set of Q2. This expectation happens usually when you say you are going to create a sequel. Like Half-Life 2 was to Half-Life 1. So I don't find my reaction completely unfounded. Sure, it didn't have to have EVERYTHING I listed but I think my point was to show I could easily come up with a huge list of things not in Q4 that was in Q2.
PlasmicRedX 4 months ago
@PlasmicRedX Also, I may or may not have partially did it to fulfill my strange obsession with Quake 2 being my favorite game of all time.
PlasmicRedX 4 months ago
@PlasmicRedX Con't - I found it fun though, my biggest beef is the damage system, I miss higher difficulty meaning more monsters, not 1 shot kills. In Doom 3 something only killed you in 1 shot if it was on Nightmare or a boss.
KrazyDanProductions 4 months ago
@KrazyDanProductions Yeah, had ID made it instead of Raven, I would have probably needed another batch of goats to sacr-er uh, I mean lots and lots of nice happy things to say to ID. :-)
PlasmicRedX 4 months ago