Suarez International Force On Force with Steve Collins

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http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/forceonforcegunfighting.aspx

Facebook Written Review of the class:
http://www.facebook.com/notes.php?id=149344037431&notes_tab=app_234747185...

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[collinssj69]

Well, I'm the Steve Collins that taught this class. Don't know how I missed this, but glad I found it. Force on Force training is a vital link in an individuals training. Is it perfect? Absolutely not, but it is a giant step from shooting at stationary targets only. The key is ensuring that it remains a training tool, and doesn't become "I got you! No you didn't!" If you're willing to leave your ego behind, Force on Force can be one the best training events you can have.

[limalife]

@collinssj69 I'm glad you found it!

[Billthrasher]

In my ccw class one of the students weapon failed during live fire so the instructor lent him his weapon, we came to 10 shots 5 point shooting and 5 using sights, the instructor asked him how he liked the sights and he said fine... there were no sights on the gun LOL

[limalife]

@Billthrasher That is funny.

[hamtooo]

how old are you

[limalife]

@hamtooo 135.... unless it matters. ;)

[SOSBELLY]

@TheLumbernator1 There are great CDs out there from Gabriel Suarez on just bout any self defense subjects (for those that would like to Pre-prepare).No BS-real life-approach for ALL AGES (I have seen many retirees participate,within limits of course).The idea is to gain distance while gaining time to respond.Also, yes you have a gun but if you can get away without shooting it do it.I am a magnet for trouble (also work in high risk area) but have never been taken out,,,yet :)

[l337pwnage]

@limalife He probably just wanted to know if you were 'legal' ;)

[TheLumbernator1]

You have great videos, I recently got my ccw and force on force is my next step because I don't believe the training I received was good enough. Really I don't think anyone can train enough nor should ever stop training because you will never know when something bad is going to happen or how. Keep up the vids!

[DonMeaker]

@grimel2 Of course I understand what is written. That is why I responded to "There is no safety reason to keep an empty chamber on a defensive firearm." I stated the reason why one would. A single action revolver is as effective in defense as ever it was. I am glad I could help educate you on that.

[grimel2]

@DonMeaker Do you remotely comprehend what is written? This was about modern DA revolvers for defensive carry.

[DonMeaker]

@trappedprepper Thank you for confirming that the Israelis keep the chamber clear. Jeff Cooper used to train that way too, once, long long ago. The detonics people designed their first pistol to be carried with one in the chamber with the hammer down, with the intention of cocking during the draw (like a single action revolver). That is why the old detonics had the oddly shaped rear of the slide.

[trappedprepper]

@DonMeaker the isreali defense force TRAINED that way because the pistols they had were older and NOT uniform, so to circumvent training everyone in multiple platforms safely, they chose to carry empty chamber, and cycle on the draw.... know it all

[CPLBSS88]

@limalife that made my day, thanks! lol.

[DonMeaker]

@grimel2 There was a reason to keep an empty hammer on the '73 peacekeeper, as there was on cap and ball revolvers which preceded it: If dropped, the hammer could hit the primer and give you an accidental discharge. if the chamber under the hammer was empty, they it would not give you an accidental discharge. Cocking the hammer rotated the cylinder anyways. That reason is less valid for modern weapons, and modern primers with more uniformity. Some early auto pistols had the same weakness.

[DonMeaker]

@limalife Of course the Israelis disagree. They keep the chamber clear, and cycle the engine as part of their draw.

Of course you have much more experience than the Israeli Army, right? Right?