Autumn Sonata
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Uploaded by Hildegarda on Nov 24, 2007
Ingmar Bergman´s Autumn Sonata 1978 starring Ingrid Bergman and Liv Ulmann
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what democracy?? we are living in pure Oligarchy, it is just that the "few" have become very clever as have their ways of domination
I dont think Democracy ever existed in the history of human kind - the idealism of Ancient Greeks to hide their slave-based society (and their oligarchy was the mildest of all). Today we live in an Oligarchy Terror
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@LohengrinT Remember that such music was written in a superior age, that is, an aristocratic age (or at least when the accumulated capital of an aristocratic age had yet to be fully spent). With the rise of democracy comes militant mediocrity, which of course makes such music impossible.
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@davie1238 you should see the movie.
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This is indeed one of the finest scenes in all Bergman's oeuvre: the contrast between the eloquence of the music on the one hand, and the insensitive cruelty of the mother towards her daughter on the other hand, the pain felt by the latter which is expressed only through the cool expertise of the concert pianist, the conflit between hate and love who clash in this scene; it ia absolutely brilliant.
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@Cafeblanx Agreed. Translations always seem to lose the flavour of the original, somehow. I've seen that with translations into English from Swedish and vice versa.
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My friend was just telling me that Viv Ullman can say more with her expression than most actors can do with a page or two of script... I think I see what he means here.
It's a rather disagreeable piece of music though. There seems , little satisfying about it.
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haunting
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Pensez à aller voir le bergmanproject2009 ! Des commentaires à gogo.
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This is the greatest analysis of Chopin's Prelude no2 that exists and one of the most profound musical-dramatic scene of the entire cinematography The way Liv looks at Ingrid is pure Genius.. The description of the prelude as a Pain Image is Ingenius...
-where are the geniuses :)) Are they gone forever? :p Is it Long live the Stupids? :))
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Ingrid Bergman + Liv Ullman = FANTASTIC:D
IngridBergmanRocked 2 years ago 18