Timing & Sensitivity Drills - Matt Thornton

Matt Thornton discusses timing and sensitivity drills in the Martial Arts

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• SBG
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• Martial
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• Aliveness
• Sensitivity
• Timing

[BafuNation]

Resisting? Just because you try to stop someone from tagging you in a game of patty cake doesn't make the game of patty cake practical for real combat. It is "sensitivity" (if one would even dignify it as such) based off of a flawed premise to begin with.

[2Jax]

It's like saying that just doing ground fighting is wrong because in reality people don't start on the ground and people might have the oppotunity to break out, stand up and run away... but they don't. This is because they are isolating the ground fighting range.

I agree with him partly as a class that focused mainly on hubud or chi sao wouldn't teach you how to be a great fighter but this guy has gone too far.

[hopked]

@2Jax Again you missed the point skipping is not foot work its a calf work out like say lifting wieghts or running on a tread mill. I would also bet Thornton has more experiance then you having worked with people like Dan Inosanto. Thornton aslo came to the same conclusion as MMA before the UFC existed SBG was the first MMA gym with out the help of MMA and he was able to do that by the method of aliveness.

[2Jax]

@hopked Exactly. Skipping is for footwork, hubud is for contact reference point work. You don't see hubud in a fight? No shit sherlock. Again, it's not a technique. A lot of people have drills like hubud wrong. Thornton is pointing that out without realising some people teach it differently and constantly remind their students this is not a technique. And they don't focus too much time on it because this would be unbalanced. Classes like this do exist.

[hopked]

@2Jax First off your analogy doesnt work at all. Try searching hubud or chi soa in a fight. Where as the skip roping that a boxer does is exersise boxing foot work is hard work and takes time to do correctly thats why a boxer skip ropes. So your analogy is trying to equate a glorified game a patty cake to wieght lifting. The point Matt is making is that you dont see chi soa or hubud in fights so why train it? its a worthless step.

[2Jax]

@hopked No, I'm not missing anything. Would you say boxer shouldn't skip because no-one has a skipping rope in the ring? Thornton doesn't seem to realise that hubud and chi soa are training methods and not fighting techniques. They are reference point drills. If you train hubud and chi soa as techniques then this is bad training.

[hopked]

@2Jax Not at all your missing the point of aliveness completly

[tvrulesnation]

Alright two points

1) Sensitivity drills are built to help you learn opposing forces, of course your never going to use the drill fully in self-defence but it teaches you to react via touch rather than sight, you build the resistance up over time we all have to crawl before walking before running

[Liftgazer]

Chi sau is kind of variation of tui shou - push hands activity. Some push hands pretty dead like some tai chi some push hands very alive like some yi chuan guy. Some time some thing seem bull shit and we get want to kill it off from us but years after come to see value again when look from new perspictive with new aproach. BJJ can be roll light and unreal too. Where Matt Thornton ring fights by the way?