Speidi on the Alex Jones show - Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag 5/5

Heidi Montag pratt and Spencer pratt, together known as "speidi", joins the alex jones show Tuesday, June 30, 2009! They have recently woken up to the nwo watching the obama deception!



The Hills star tells The Alex Jones Show why the implantable microchip represents the mark of the beast
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[thegirl44]

Religion and God are two totally different entities, likewise faith and religion.

I believe that the Son of God walked the earth, however, I don't believe that he came to create a "religion". Christianity is something that our puny little human minds came up with hundreds of years after JC's death to help us try to comprehend the enormity of the simple ideas that Christ shared with us.

[thegirl44]

Anyone that would watch Zeitgeist and recommend it as irrefutable truth of anything, really needs to independently study the subjects presented.

[thegirl44]

While I agree whole heartedly with that statement, mankind has turned the tables on that school of thought by creating Christianity. Look into the trials and trubulations that campaigns like Jews for Jesus have gone through. While unable to change the Jewish elders minds that Christ was the Messiah, the elders sure managed to come up with a lot of ammunition in the Talmud for those who did believe it :).

[whatdoyouwantandwhy]

No if a Jew were to believe JC was God then he would be a Jew who believes in the Messiah. JC himself was a Jew and believed he was God. Christianity was never suppose to become a separate religion though it clearly did. It was suppose to reform the current Jewish faith and bring them back to God's way. They only spilt after they knew it wasn't gonna work, but that doesn't mean you can't be a Jew and believe in Jesus.

[thegirl44]

There were Christian churches before the Roman "unification" (Catholicism would come later) of approx. 200 AD and many of them progressed past the Roman unification leading to events like the Great Schism between Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox churches in 1054 AD. Christianity is the religion, Catholic, Baptist, Pentecostal etc. are it's churches.

Jews can believe that a MAN called JC walked the earth, but if they believe that this Man was the Son of God then they are Christian, not Jewish.

[whatdoyouwantandwhy]

Exactly to show them their Messiah had arrived. Christianity isn't a religion it's a belief that Jesus is God in human form. The religion is the Roman Catholic religion which over the years of practice and power has been corrupted. You can be Jewish and a Christian at the same time.

[thegirl44]

That is why the majority of the testaments of the new testaments are in letter form; they were letters written by people that had witnessed Christ's miracles collected to show the governing temple elders in support of the idea that Christ was the Messiah that the old testaments spoke of.

These Jews that believed that Christ was the Messiah diddn't split from Judaism until hundreds of years of campaigns to recognize Christ as the promised messiah didn't work.

[thegirl44]

Christ said, "I have not come to change the old ways, but to teach you a new way," this implies that he was only seeking to reform the existing Jewish Temples. "Upon this rock I build my church. Wherever two or more of you gather in my name, that is my church," implies that he did not come to form a new religion. Followers of Christ were Jewish and tried to sway the temple that the Jewish Messiah HAD come, they eventually formed the religion of Christianity when the elders weren't receptive.

[whatdoyouwantandwhy]

Not exactly, Christianity is the belief that Jesus is the messiah. So it's been around since Jesus was around. However the "Holy Roman Catholic Church" was created centuries after his death and is the religion you speak of. But I totally agree with you on all points.

[thegirl44]

Therein lay the problem, none of what Zeitgeist says about the similarities is true, nor are these supposed similarities documented in any theological or secular historical form that anyone other than the small group of writers cited in the film has actually seen.

While I agree wholeheartedly with your final sentence, Zeitgeist is a horrible reference for any tangible evidence to support it.

[whatdoyouwantandwhy]

I know your gonna say that no it's me that's brainwashed, but clearly I think with a clear mind and saw both sides to the story I can only say that, because I have my views and you have yours so there's no point in typing any further except for the fun of it.