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The Future of Freedom (the past that will-have-been)

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First READ: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557535612/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=c...
Please see my Blog for more details: http://coreyanton.blogspot.com/ This is a short talk on my chapter, "Futuralness as Freedom: Moving toward the past that-will-have-been," in Media and the Apocalypse, Edited by Kylo-Patrick Hart and Annette Holba. GO TO: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1433104199/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=c...

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  • Distinguishing "teaching" from learning".

    In the case where a father bird "teaches" the young to sing the songs, is he actively teaching ?

    Can teaching be said to be as integral to an individual's structure as learning is?

  • @pointyhead1 These is much in these thoughts. It would seem that we are partly "for others" and this makes our lives interconnected in ways that we, personally and individually, cannot fully grasp. How, exactly, we are viewed and known and experienced by others always remains a bit of a mystery. Nevertheless, we are social in our being; others are not merely objects that occasionally enter experience; they are the very condition for our experiences, especially regarding language and cognition

  • I'd like to hear more about the the future being "the past that will have been." I'm not yet clear on what you mean by that.

    Is this formulation basically a way of emphasizing the importance of the now in terms of taking responsibility for generating a future that is better for all, or are you saying more than that?

  • Death is the exemplar case: it will-have-been. We should take that fact, realize that what we call the future is equally a will-have-been past, and now move toward deeds and accomplishments which, once done, cannot have not been done.

    If you do something great today, you later cannot have not done it, but if you do nothing great today, don't fool yourself into thinking you could have. (the Beatles, now, cannot not have made Rubber Sole)

    SO: Actively sentence yourself to your past

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  • "Redemption is about getting someone else (in the future) to sort out your mistakes from the past" - Once again, you've hit the nail on the head :-)

  • @Rattapax

    "What's he that is not born of woman?"

    The evolution of humans is entirely heterosexual...

  • time = motion

  • "Time" is a sense. That is, humans have a sense of time that intensifies as we move from the beginning of life to the end. The realization that we are going to die, enables a sense of time. (Macbeth is the ultimate example of this.) People who believe in afterlife or think they'll live forever seem to try to capture the "future in the instant." People who believe that end-times are near are trying to confirm that indeed there is an afterlife and there is no such thing as death.

  • peace

  • when I check definitions, I find that information is knowledge gained or transmitted, once again.

    Data: factual information.

    so it always comes down to sender / recipient.

    who is the sender of DNA information/data/code ?

    Surely anything has patterns, but only as observed

  • @Professoranton

    This same difficulty goes to DNA and inheritance, because the subjects arise..."encoding" ? "information" ? "patterns"?

    Is there to be a sender, a message, and a recipient of messages ? What is code ?

    If the DNA is encoded message, who is the message from ? If it's argued that it's information, not a message, then why is the term "encoded for" being used ?

    Are there examples of encoding and transmission of information that do not involve a sender and a recipient ?

  • It's difficult to draw the line between "taught" and "learned" behaviors.

    I'll use the example of zoopharmacognosy in animals that could learn that skill, whether independent of adult teachers or dependant.

    Even ignoring any argument that it would have to be a teaching "kind" of ( structure of ) animal in order to teach, there are difficulties.

    Experiments using animals in nature, would be difficult to perform. The babies would probably all die.

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