Uploaded by KingHeathen on Apr 19, 2007
This is a contradiction which can not be countered with the usual "mistranslation" or "copyist error" or any other typical apologetic response. This contradiction is quite simple: Either Matthew got it wrong, Luke got it wrong, or they BOTH got it wrong!
Some common attempts at rebuttals:
"It's not Herod the Great."
If you look at Matthew 2:22 you'll see a reference to Archelaus and "his father" Herod. Archelaus was the son of Herod THE GREAT and brother to Antipas. Antipas is mentioned in 14:1-2. So YES, it IS Herod the Great.
"Quirinius was governor twice."
This is an assertion which has nothing to support it other than more assertions.
"It didn't mean 'governor' but instead 'one who governs'...so it could have been a lesser office of power."
Luke only makes ONE reference to Quirinius and it's to establish that he was governor of Syria at the time. If he were in any less of an office, the entire point of bringing up his name would be worthless. It would be the same as pointing out that there was an attack on American soil when Obama was a Senator in an article that isn't about Obama and we never reference him again. If we are trying to attach a political figure to establish roughly when it happened (as Luke is obviously doing) we would name President Bush, not someone else.
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you are an IDIOT! study the word before you make a video trying to dicredit the word. wow their is no contradiction there only that the timeline goes backwards. you know nothing but you shall be prayed for. you need it.
childrenfromabove 4 hours ago
this is not what this was for, this census as you are talking about was in fact for the return to their home from which they was born, so that not for an account but to find the man child that is the messiah. why don't you learn the time table in the days of old. the time goes backwards
childrenfromabove 4 hours ago
@pmedic063252 I never said that.
This is what can happen when you decide to jump in on a particular comment and ignore its referent.
MrFungus420 2 days ago
@glennheston ok, this conversation is over. I gave you respect. I listened to your propositions but, like the majority of Athiests, you resort to insults, and name calling. Now, go ahead and toss your insults. I was gracious enough to consider what you were saying and, only asked respect. You couldn't even do that. BTW, I do have a Biology degree.
pmedic063252 3 days ago
@MrFungus420 no one (at least in my house) said he was an Athiest. You have to admit that many say that he was a "Christian or Catholic or whatever, in an attempt to show how hateful Christians are. There are multitudes using Christ, and distorting his words, to feed their perversions. David Koresh, a case in point, had sex with children girls. But, what Christ says is that to lead one of these little ones astray, it would be better if they had a stone around the neck, and drown.
pmedic063252 3 days ago
@MrFungus420 oh wow. Thats quite a bit of education you had just given me. Please provide for me a list of these "nunneries" And, if what you say is true, then truth should be reasonable to prove. I would be happy to read and explore this proof if you provide it for me.
pmedic063252 3 days ago
@pmedic063252 Mother Teresa was interested in spreading suffering and collecting money to establish nunneries. Virtually none of the money that she raised went to help the poor in any way. The only thing that she did for the poor was to provide a place for them to suffer and die...often needlessly. If she would have used some of the money that she spent on recruiting nuns on medical help and medicine, she could have saved lives and eased suffering. She didn't.
MrFungus420 3 days ago
@pmedic063252 I did not say that Catholicism, Christianity or religion was responsible for what Hitler did. Hitler was an evil, sick human being, that is why he did what he did.
But to say that he was an atheist is an error if not an outright lie, as it is to claim that atheism is in any way responsible for his acts.
MrFungus420 3 days ago
@pmedic063252 It's called DNA.
glennheston 3 days ago
@pmedic063252 This just shows how little you understand about science.
glennheston 3 days ago