The ACLU and Christmas

Tired of Government telling me what I can and can't do in public to celebrate Christmas!

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[celtichero9]

@Barfly1911 The problem with only fighting the battles you can win my cost you the war! I admire the ACLU for their very existence. They provide ample fodder for a dialogue on our Consitiution and how it fits into our world today! I seldom agree with them but I don't always want people to agree with me! Please subscribe to my site and watch my other videos. Your comments are Fantastic and challange me to define and refine my thoughts. You would be a valued asset to my site.

God Bless

[Barfly1911]

@celtichero9 They are fighting battles that they can win, that's not wrong that's strategy. What about the ACLU do you respect and admire?

[celtichero9]

@Barfly1911 The Video was presented to show, that in this case, has chosen to be unfair in the selection of this case. It is willing to take on an individual citzen or citizens yet ignor the Federal Governments position on this issue because it knows it can't will againgt them. This is unfair and the ACLU is being selective! You can't have 2 standarts. One for Washington DC and one for the rest of America! I admire and respect the ACLU but in this case they are DEAD WRONG!

[Barfly1911]

@celtichero9 never mentioned in the original document that is

[Barfly1911]

@celtichero9 I suspect they would argue by that by the unconstitutional establishment of a state religion other disenfranchised religions and beliefs right to free speech is given a lesser degree of importence. Civil Liberties and freedom are YOUR goals not the goals of the ACLU . Equality is what they seek at all cost to those ideals and the controversy is ongoing as to it's constitutional definition since it was never mentioned except in the D.O.I.

[celtichero9]

@Barfly1911 I don't agree Segregation was never a FEDERAL LAW only State Law and it was wrong because it denied citizens equal protection under the 14th ammend. My action denies no one of anything. Doesn't the President being worn in on a Bible and saying in public "So hep me God", denie citizens their rights as well in exactly the same way? All I want to do is to follow the example set by the Fed. Gov't. Please tell me the right they are denied? I can tell you mine! Freedom of Speech!

[Barfly1911]

@celtichero9 In your opinion it hasn't diminished their rights. They would argue that what you are saying is like telling Rosa Parks that if she doesn't like segregation then don't ride the bus. Are they going to set aside special honors for all religions? If not your asking for a seat at the front of the bus, to use that metophor again. In fact the minority carrying the same weight as the majority is exactly what equality means.

[celtichero9]

@Barfly1911 If a person in the Minority doesn't want to watch the President of the United States sworn in on a Bible and Say "So Help Me God" then my advice to them is not to watch and not to listen!

If they do not like what the majority has every right to do then they can take the same advice! My action hasn't diminished their rights one bit but the weight given to the importance of their opposition has diminished mine!

Thanks for the Comments Please keep them coming!

God Bless

[celtichero9]

@Barfly1911

You raise an excellent point. just because you are the minority doesn't mean you lose basic rights but it does mean that your opinion does not carry the weight of the majority. As I stated all Fed. Govt. Officials take an OATH sworn to be morally binding. This then would seem to be the majority opinion. How can it be correct to practice that freedom Wash. D.C. but i am not given the same right in the Heartland of America? That is the worse kind of double standard.

[Barfly1911]

I heard you point out that you are in the MAJORITY, okay without taking a personal stand here what I see is a conflict of freedom vs. equality. The ACLU might say that it is acting in the intrest of protecting the equality of the minority who may be offended since they do not practice Christanity or observe Christmas. Your freedom is a challenge to thier equality and vice versa would seem to be the pivot point of the debate. Would you agree?